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Those "facts" are twisted because they don't accurately measure how tax increases that were linked to property value increases and assessments.
Ask any person in Nassau County how their tax burden is doing compared to 2001? It's a very bleak picture.
Suozzi has run Nassau County into the ground to the point our emergency reserves have dwindled down to almost nothing and to the point where the County could be in fiscal failure in a couple years. If you turn a blind eye to that, then I know you are simply blinded by party loyalty.
I'm not blinded by party loyalty. I'm not afraid to call out Republicans who have been pigs like Gulotta, Santino, Scarleta, etc. I never hear many of you calling out the Democratic Pigs among us.
We can get into history very easily by citing the abject failures of LBJ, Nixon (who essentially governed like a Democrat and even proposed a universal health care bill), and Carter, but that's beyond the scope of this.
We need to push for candidates that truly do push for fiscal restraint. A trillion dollars of spending for a massive new government health entitlement is not restraint. I love how someone said we need to "catch up" to Western Europe in our distribution of entitlements. That clearly came from someone who hasn't spent any real time there nor do they understand their system very well.
I've lived in Italy and my wife is from England. Believe you me they would kill for the quality of healthcare we enjoy in this country. Obama is going about this in entirely the wrong way. Instead of attacking the true cause of cost increases in our system (torts), he wants to solve the problem by throwing more money at it, and hoping that the public plan can cap Doctor's fees. Any economist will tell you what will happen. The reason health insurance costs have spiraled so high is because doctor's are passing off the "cost" of medicare and medicaid to the insurance companies. I can only charge $100 for this procedure? Fine, let's try and gauge the private insurer. The net result of this new entitlement will be higher private insurance premiums, less access to private health care, and more dependancy on the public option. It's basic economics.
If it all sounds too good to be true, it is. You don't cover 40 million people AND cut costs. It's an economic impossibility. There must be rationing done at some level given scarce resources. So, if you buy into Obama's plan, I have some swamp land to sell you.
They really weren't though, some people taxes did go up as a result of assessment (home values were increasing more than average), others went down (home values increased less than the average), it evened out. However looking at property tax revenues you can see that assessment really did not increase property taxes because they were virtually the same for all of the years when the values were skyrocketing (the exception being the year when Suozzi took over and faced with the $400 million deficit)
That really isn't correct. Taxes really did not skyrocket as a result of the property values increasing, at least not the County taxes. The Town of Hempstead and the Town of Oyster Bay did see the taxes increase as a result of their jurisdictions increasing taxes, and the Schools did as well. However, the County taxes did not. Take a look at the Property tax revenues in Nassau County over the last few years. It was pretty much stagnant during the entire time the property values were increasing (the exception being the increase during Suozzi's 1st year in office)
The county runs the Dept. of Assessment....the school portion of your taxes is determined based on the same taxable value as every other item on your bill (water district, county police, parks, etc.) regardless of what municipality is responsible for it. The taxable value is calculated largely based on market value, which increased at an insane rate between 2001-2006....so while ostensibly, the county does not create the operating budget for each school district, those budgets would NEVER have been able to get to where they are today had property assessments not doubled or tripled on average over the course of 5 years.
They really weren't though, some people taxes did go up as a result of assessment (home values were increasing more than average), others went down (home values increased less than the average), it evened out. However looking at property tax revenues you can see that assessment really did not increase property taxes because they were virtually the same for all of the years when the values were skyrocketing (the exception being the year when Suozzi took over and faced with the $400 million deficit)
The county runs the Dept. of Assessment....the school portion of your taxes is determined based on the same taxable value as every other item on your bill (water district, county police, parks, etc.) regardless of what municipality is responsible for it. The taxable value is calculated largely based on market value, which increased at an insane rate between 2001-2006....so while ostensibly, the county does not create the operating budget for each school district, those budgets would NEVER have been able to get to where they are today had property assessments not doubled or tripled on average over the course of 5 years.
Not really. The School board decided on a budget for the year, it was virtually always an increase over the prior year's budget and it was put to a vote. Virtually all of the school districts budget's pass every year (and even if it doesn't the backup budget usually offers some increase as well). So a school district decides to increase taxes by 7.5% in a given year and the budget passes, the increases in the school taxes will be 7.5% regardless of if home values are increasing or decreasing. Now where the assessment comes in, is how that 7.5% is going to be balanced throughout the school district. Some may have seen their taxes increase by 9% (if their increase in home value outpaced the average change in the district), other may have seen a 6% increase (if their increase in home value was less than the average of the district). However, all in all its going to be a 7.5% increase for the district which comes from the school board and the vote on the budget.
So you didn't vote for George Bush, then? I'm thinking you probably did.
By the way, the military is part of "big government", folks. I know Rush Limbaugh doesn't let you in on that tidbit, but one of the biggest sources of money being flushed down the toilet is the military, and for some reason, Glen Beck worshipping tea baggers don't know this....hmm.
And, eh, if you stage a big invasion of some place, and don't actually pay for it and just finance it with debt..isn't that going to eventually lead to a higher tax burden? More things left out of the Sean Hannity mantra.
Tea baggers may not be dependent on "the government" but they sure seem dependent on slanted and dishonest "information".
You seem pretty bitter for a guy who has his man in the White House and a three ring circus in Congress. Or maybe you are just feeling the pressure like the rest of your party.
By the way, people can see and think for themselves and don't need to watch or listen to anyone to know where this country is headed. Your Liberal mantra does not work here. Try to rise above it.
and thats the small taxes..the school roll is twice that
so tell me agin,,that my taxes didnt go up
Is that the County AND TOWN taxes?? The only way your county taxes can be that high is if your property is worth around 1.3 million, and the only way it could have increased by that much is if you did major construction on your home in recent years
Who are you trying to fool? Are you on Suozzi payroll? You quote 2 separate tax increases yourself and make them sound like nothing (they aren't). You essentially ignore the broken assessment system (which Suozzi did nothing about even though the legislature was his party for his whole 2 terms). You also ignore the Home Energy tax slapped on residents which in real terms is equivalent to a 4.9% tax hike.
Disguising taxes is even worse than being overt about them.
Suozzi basically wasted away the state money given to him in 2002 to help fix Nassau's budget crisis. Instead, he more than doubled the amount of exempt patronage positions in his government. That's 22 million a yr in salaries to his buddies and pals for specially created positions that don't even require an exam.
Look past party colors and you will see a man that ruined Glen Cove, saddled it with more municipal debt per person than any place in NY, and then continued his rampage in Nassau County.
Is that the County AND TOWN taxes?? The only way your county taxes can be that high is if your property is worth around 1.3 million, and the only way it could have increased by that much is if you did major construction on your home in recent years
nope that's the COUNTY tax,, not the town (school tax)....in east meadow.........supposed value of the house 654k according to the tax assessor....2200sf 4bed 2.5 bath on 0.267 acres,.. built in 1956... lenox ave
Who are you trying to fool? Are you on Suozzi payroll? You quote 2 separate tax increases yourself and make them sound like nothing (they aren't). You essentially ignore the broken assessment system (which Suozzi did nothing about even though the legislature was his party for his whole 2 terms). You also ignore the Home Energy tax slapped on residents which in real terms is equivalent to a 4.9% tax hike.
Disguising taxes is even worse than being overt about them.
Suozzi basically wasted away the state money given to him in 2002 to help fix Nassau's budget crisis. Instead, he more than doubled the amount of exempt patronage positions in his government. That's 22 million a yr in salaries to his buddies and pals for specially created positions that don't even require an exam.
Look past party colors and you will see a man that ruined Glen Cove, saddled it with more municipal debt per person than any place in NY, and then continued his rampage in Nassau County.
By far the biggest increase was his 1st year in office. It was one that hurt no question about it, but hell in 2001 he campaigned stating he would have to increase taxes because of the $400 million deficit we were facing. For the next five years county property taxes did not increase. Assessment changes resulted in some people seeing increase, and some people seeing decreases, overall it evened out. The county property tax revenues show that. In 09 we had a 3.9% increase in property taxes which came out to be approx $58 per homeowner. We did have the home heat energy tax, Nassau was the last municipality in the region to have that. It came as a direct result of the national economic climate which caused sales tax revenue to plunge. During the debate in the Legislature about the Home Energy tax, those who were opposed to it were asked point blank, then find something to cut from the budget. They came up with nothing. During the campaign season with the talk about it being repealed if the GOP regains the Leg, or if Mangano were to get elected, again they were asked well what will you cut, again they couldn't come up with a response.
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