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Old 11-21-2011, 10:41 AM
 
Location: Hamburg, NY
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I agree.Not bad.

Keep in mind even an under perfoming district on LI would be a stellar one upstate.



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Depends where upstate. Many suburbs of Buffalo, Rochester, Syracuse and Albany have school districts that are just as good as many top rated school districts on Long Island and you can live there for much less money.

Here are some examples:
Pittsford (Suburban Rochester)GreatSchools.org Search: pittsford

Orchard Park (Suburban Buffalo)
GreatSchools.org Search: Orchard Park

Clifton park (Suburban Albany)
Clifton Park Schools - Clifton Park, NY | GreatSchools

Those are just a few, there are many more.
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Old 11-21-2011, 10:42 AM
 
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like a moth to a flame...lol.
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Old 11-21-2011, 10:43 AM
 
Location: Massapequa Park
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While the test scores are a good indicator of a quality district, I would lime to see the amount of extracurriculars strength of sports programs/ clubs factored in somehow. I think the benchmark of a great district would be high test scores, high graduation rate, large range of electives offered, tons of clubs and a strong sports program. Obviously smaller schools wouldn't be able to achieve that at the same level as larger school districts, but to *me* there is more than just academics when considering school districts.
Excellent point. My district gets accused by some parents for focusing too much on sports ...but I think it's great having a top notch athletic department too. If you factor this in, a lot more schools would be in the top tranche.

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How does GS evaluate the districts to achieve their points ratings? According to them, the rural, poor-by-LI-standards school district my second home is in rated the same as Three Village.

I looked into the VT school while contemplating the reverse of what I do now, and the schools in that district weren't even comparable to here.

GS is the Zillow of school ratings.
They look at state standardized tests (and regents) at all grade levels 3-12. Bouncing around from district to district, it looks like it's not too bad a resource.
GreatSchools Ratings FAQ - Defining Your Ideal School | GreatSchools


Can I compare GreatSchools Ratings across different states?

No, GreatSchools Ratings cannot be compared across states, because they are based on test results and different states use different tests.
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Old 11-21-2011, 11:03 AM
 
Location: NY NY
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How did East Hampton, Southampton, and Westhampton beach get above average?
Huge tax bases of second homeowners (who dont use the schools) keeps average home taxes enviably cheap compared to much of the rest of LI, but average SAT scores don't ring too many bells. Not much AP, and elite college admissions are rare too. Predominant culture of year round population is blue collar though enjoy some prosperity as small business owners, contractors/trades, and landscape laborers. The latter being largely non-English speaking these days and may/may not be legal (parents anyway). Faculties are no great shakes as cost of housing is a big issue. Basically, these schools are geared to turn out "the help". But hey, when you can catch some waves between house painting jobs and live with you parents until they cash out, WTF!

WHB scores have historically been higher, pulled up by all the year round doctors. lawyers, and Grumman execs and engineers who traditionally concentrated in the hamlet of Remsenberg, which has its own outstanding elementary school that feeds in to WHB HS.
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Old 11-21-2011, 11:45 AM
 
Location: Inis Fada
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Excellent point. My district gets accused by some parents for focusing too much on sports ...but I think it's great having a top notch athletic department too. If you factor this in, a lot more schools would be in the top tranche.



They look at state standardized tests (and regents) at all grade levels 3-12. Bouncing around from district to district, it looks like it's not too bad a resource.
GreatSchools Ratings FAQ - Defining Your Ideal School | GreatSchools
GreatSchools Ratings for New York

One thing I see mentioned (in general) is weighting by district size -- it would appear 3V is not weighted, despite being a larger district.

WMHS is a 10-12 HS whereas most schools are 9-12; I believe the configuration is skewing the school's rating with respect to the way the regents are calculated to determine rating.

Who knows? I can argue with the bean counters until I am blue in the face, but there's more to it than black and white.
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Old 11-21-2011, 02:29 PM
 
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Wow....32 pages of reflecting on a list of schools and trying to put them in cute little groups. People on Long Island need a hobby.
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Old 11-21-2011, 02:32 PM
 
Location: Selden New York
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Does it really matter even the top schools Hold future crackheads
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Old 11-21-2011, 02:36 PM
 
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Does it really matter even the top schools Hold future crackheads
and recreational handball players!
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Old 11-21-2011, 02:37 PM
 
Location: Selden New York
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and recreational handball players!
excuse me if i dont sit in the house all weekend like you do.
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Old 11-21-2011, 02:45 PM
 
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excuse me if i dont sit in the house all weekend like you do.
I thought you played on weekdays as well? Did you get a job? Is Burger King finally willing to be flexible with their literacy requirements?
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