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Old 01-18-2010, 10:14 AM
 
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I happen to live in Roslyn (but no kids in school there - they were grown before I moved here), so maybe I can offer you my Observations.
I can tell you that driving around Roslyn Heights at Xmas time I see LOTS of Christmas decorations on the houses. When I pass the school during the day I see groups of kids of all ethnicities - Together. It is not at all unusual for example to see mixed couples holding hands, diverse groups of guys rough-housing, kids with spiked hair & lots of body piercings, etc.
It may not be the most diverse student body on LI, but it does not appear, on the surface, to be a place where religious practices is an issue as to who the kids will be friends with.
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Old 01-19-2010, 09:37 AM
 
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What's wrong with Jews that are observant and want their kids to associate with other observant Jews? They aren't hurting anyone. They are simply trying to preserve their faith and culture and pass it along to other generations. Frankly, as someone who is Catholic, I think other cultures/faiths should do more of this.

Real diversity comes from choice and the ability to have other faiths and cultures preserved over time, rather than some generic melting pot where no one stands for anything. How boring is that.

There are groups and clans in every school district. Are you going to avoid the New Hyde Park school district because of the large Indian population there that sticks together?

Roslyn is a great area. There will be people there that are welcoming and some that are not. You simply make the best of what you find and try to meet good people with shared common values.
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Old 01-19-2010, 12:08 PM
 
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What's wrong with Jews that are observant and want their kids to associate with other observant Jews? They aren't hurting anyone. They are simply trying to preserve their faith and culture and pass it along to other generations. Frankly, as someone who is Catholic, I think other cultures/faiths should do more of this.

Real diversity comes from choice and the ability to have other faiths and cultures preserved over time, rather than some generic melting pot where no one stands for anything. How boring is that.

There are groups and clans in every school district. Are you going to avoid the New Hyde Park school district because of the large Indian population there that sticks together?

Roslyn is a great area. There will be people there that are welcoming and some that are not. You simply make the best of what you find and try to meet good people with shared common values.
This is coming from the same guy who thinks "italian" Americans (who are about as italian as the taco I had for lunch today) acting like fools when italy won the world cup is a good thing

Realdiversity is not shunning others to preserve culture. If you can't preserve your culture without treating other people like dirt, then your culture isn't worth preserving in the first place.
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Old 01-19-2010, 12:16 PM
 
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It's been my sorry experience that non-observant, secular Jews would be the first to complain, and do so very loudly, if a school district were to re-schedule events because these events occurred on Shabbat.
Mine too... thankfully some folks out there do have a brain.
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Old 01-19-2010, 12:17 PM
 
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If you guys want to see REAL shunning of cultures come to the south shore of Nassau
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Old 01-19-2010, 02:56 PM
 
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If you guys want to see REAL shunning of cultures come to the south shore of Nassau
Can you elaborate?
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Old 01-19-2010, 03:02 PM
 
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In my neck of the woods (5 towns) if you aren't of a specific religion/culture you are treated a lot differently than if you were part of that culture.
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Old 01-20-2010, 12:27 PM
 
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This is coming from the same guy who thinks "italian" Americans (who are about as italian as the taco I had for lunch today) acting like fools when italy won the world cup is a good thing

Realdiversity is not shunning others to preserve culture. If you can't preserve your culture without treating other people like dirt, then your culture isn't worth preserving in the first place.
Please, I never said wannabe bandwagon Italians are great, but it's better than nothing. Perhaps if they take some pride in where they came from that will be a spark for them (or their children) to be more a part of their culture.

No one said treating people like "dirt" was ok, but that's not my experience in Roslyn. Just people various Jews want to associate with people of their own kind doesn't mean they treat others as "dirt".

Besides, why do you feel the need to be accepted and loved by everyone? If some faction doesn't want me because I'm Italian, then so be it. Life goes on. Find people who share your common values and live life.
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Old 01-20-2010, 01:32 PM
 
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Please, I never said wannabe bandwagon Italians are great, but it's better than nothing. Perhaps if they take some pride in where they came from that will be a spark for them (or their children) to be more a part of their culture.

No one said treating people like "dirt" was ok, but that's not my experience in Roslyn. Just people various Jews want to associate with people of their own kind doesn't mean they treat others as "dirt".

Besides, why do you feel the need to be accepted and loved by everyone? If some faction doesn't want me because I'm Italian, then so be it. Life goes on. Find people who share your common values and live life.
I think the real issue is that it seems only *certain* groups have the priviledge of shunning others to preserve their culture. When other's do it, it's considered racism/ethnocentrism/prejudice.
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Old 01-20-2010, 02:06 PM
 
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I think the real issue is that it seems only *certain* groups have the priviledge of shunning others to preserve their culture. When other's do it, it's considered racism/ethnocentrism/prejudice.
Now, here you are on to something. It is definitely true that we have different standards in this country. Not only are certain groups afforded extra legal protections, but they are also given the benefit of the doubt in societal questions such as these.

That said, I still think people have the right to assemble and associate in groups where they share common values or traits, even if that means others are excluded.

If a bunch of Greek families in Hempstead want to have their lives revolve around St. Pauls by sharing language, food, culture etc. with other Greek families, then so be it.
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