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I just did in my above post Dead, and used Central Islip as an example.
So, you believe the Central Islip School District is analogous to East Williston? What are the key similarities?
You are suggesting that Central Islip had it's pay frozen (which is different from what the other person was advocating - a pay cut). Nevertheless, after their pay freeze, their performance stayed the same? According to what measures?
Based upon the similarities between the two districts, and the fact that Central Islip so no change in its performance, you suggest freezing pay in East Williston also?
The thing is, many LI'ers are brainwashed into thinking that not passing yearly tax increases for their school budgets means that their homes will be worth nothing. They have nobody to blame but themselves. The whole thing is so pathetic that it is comedic. However, you will notice that someone always will say , "it's a good thing! We have to retain good teachers, yada , yada , yada,,,,etc.. It's still basically a good 'ole boys network. If Joe Blow from somewhere out West applied for a vacant teaching position, he'd never get it. Someones sister who knew someones brother who was dating their second cousin would get the job first
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Originally Posted by tomonlineli
There were two teachers in Central Islip alone that made over $200,000. It was a thread on here about a year ago. Yes, it takes decades to get that high, but the fact that this level of income is attainable is unbelievable.
The thing is, many LI'ers are brainwashed into thinking that not passing yearly tax increases for their school budgets means that their homes will be worth nothing. They have nobody to blame but themselves. The whole thing is so pathetic that it is comedic. However, you will notice that someone always will say , "it's a good thing! We have to retain good teachers, yada , yada , yada,,,,etc.. It's still basically a good 'ole boys network. If Joe Blow from somewhere out West applied for a vacant teaching position, he'd never get it. Someones sister who knew someones brother who was dating their second cousin would get the job first
Sadly I am inclined to agree with you.
Even if Joe Blow from out West was an outstanding teacher with exceptional credentials.
That good old boys' network is nothing, however, compared to the "qualified School Superintendants are so RARE they must be compensated like rock stars" good old boys' network. Like bad government, the fish rots from the head.
So, you believe the Central Islip School District is analogous to East Williston? What are the key similarities?
You are suggesting that Central Islip had it's pay frozen (which is different from what the other person was advocating - a pay cut). Nevertheless, after their pay freeze, their performance stayed the same? According to what measures?
Based upon the similarities between the two districts, and the fact that Central Islip so no change in its performance, you suggest freezing pay in East Williston also?
No, what you asked for was a response to a post where I talked about not getting value for our tax dollars. So, I provided an example, Central Islip, where the community is getting fleeced, value wise, by the school district. However, I don't believe how much we spend in a school is a strong predicting variable when it comes to schools. Therefore, if expenditures isn't a strong factor, then their is no point in overpaying teachers.
No, what you asked for was a response to a post where I talked about not getting value for our tax dollars. So, I provided an example, Central Islip, where the community is getting fleeced, value wise, by the school district. However, I don't believe how much we spend in a school is a strong predicting variable when it comes to schools. Therefore, if expenditures isn't a strong factor, then their is no point in overpaying teachers.
I didn't ask for an example of a community being fleeced. I asked for an example of a similar district that lowered pay without a measurable decline in performance.
I know you wouldn't just jump to conclusions that performance and compensation aren't linked. And whereas we don't base policy on divinations, I was hoping you'd share what support you have for that fact - that "how much we spend" is not a "strong predicting variable" of performance.
That's all I'm asking. It would help clear up quite a bit.
However, I don't believe how much we spend in a school is a strong predicting variable when it comes to schools. Therefore, if expenditures isn't a strong factor, then their is no point in overpaying teachers.
Really? This is exactly what Long Island is! The districts with the highest taxes have the best schools!
Really? This is exactly what Long Island is! The districts with the highest taxes have the best schools!
Sometimes I really wonder how smart these teachers actually are...... During 1999, times were good for us private sector employees.... Actually things were amazing.. Salaries were great, perks were amazing, and so on and so on... When the bubble went burst, I knew the end of all those great things was coming... and sure enough it did... But not once did I hear anyone complain about it...... They were just thankful that they still had a job, even when their salary was frozen, then cut... etc etc....
They are all on drugs..they cant see outside the uphoria
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Thanks - that's clearer.
