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Old 05-14-2010, 07:58 AM
 
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What's with this double dipping?? 8 out of 10 New York state school retirees with annual payouts of more than $205,000 are ex-superintendents from Nassau and Suffolk???

"The pension king is former Commack Union School Superintendent James Hunderfund, who retired in 2006. He receives a whopping annual payout of $316,245.
And he's a double dipper. After retiring from Commack, he was hired as the superintendent of the Malverne School District and is now pulling down at least another $225,000 in salary. "


$316,245 Long Island school pension! - NYPOST.com
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Old 05-14-2010, 11:00 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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What's with this double dipping?? 8 out of 10 New York state school retirees with annual payouts of more than $205,000 are ex-superintendents from Nassau and Suffolk???

"The pension king is former Commack Union School Superintendent James Hunderfund, who retired in 2006. He receives a whopping annual payout of $316,245.
And he's a double dipper. After retiring from Commack, he was hired as the superintendent of the Malverne School District and is now pulling down at least another $225,000 in salary. "


$316,245 Long Island school pension! - NYPOST.com

How do you even end up with a pension of over $300,000? Did he make $500,000 before he was retired if not thats a lot of retirement annuity from the taxpayers.
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Old 05-14-2010, 11:59 AM
 
Location: Nassau, Long Island, NY
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How do you even end up with a pension of over $300,000? Did he make $500,000 before he was retired if not thats a lot of retirement annuity from the taxpayers.
How come he can collect this over $300K pension WHILE STILL BEING EMPLOYED?

Meanwhile a poor slob who elects to collect their social security a few years early at age 62 cannot earn more than something like $12K a year or they get penalized.

It's ridiculous. Totally ridiculous.

And that's yet another reason why our property taxes are so high. Entitlements you cannot even DREAM of receiving in the public sector are commonplace in the private sector because they think taxpayers have unlimited funds and even if we don't, they are empowered to take our money by force and pretend we do.
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Old 05-14-2010, 01:47 PM
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I say plenty of positive things about those who work in Education but this practice is AWFUL and should be obliterated.

It is simple when hiring an educational employee who is registered with the state to see their past employment and retirement record.

I absolutely do not condone any district who hires a retired person on in any position other than something part time or consulting for a short period of time, and in that specific field of specialization.

Even worse is that crook in Roslyn who was fired and jailed for stealing huge sums of money from the school district and gets to keep his pension.

I'm all for earned benefits- but I think you have to give that kind of thing up if you're dishonorably removed from your job based on criminal activity.

These are the situations which are unfair to the tax payers, not joe schmos salary who works with your kids all day.
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Old 05-14-2010, 01:51 PM
 
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I agree. I'm all for pensions (private & public), but how is it allowable for this guy to collect on one state pension, while earning another?
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Old 05-14-2010, 01:53 PM
 
Location: Nassau, Long Island, NY
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I agree. I'm all for pensions (private & public), but how is it allowable for this guy to collect on one state pension, while earning another?
Because they get to set their own rules.

Just like the criminal from Roslyn SITTING IN JAIL and still receiving his six figure pension even while the taxpayers are supporting him in jail. It wasn't suspended for one day when it should have been rescinded because he committed a million dollar crime against his employer.
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Old 05-14-2010, 02:07 PM
 
Location: East Northport
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Most districts are overloaded with administrators who earn truly outrageous salaries. If you examine it closely administatrator contracts put teacher contracts to shame.
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Old 05-14-2010, 02:10 PM
 
Location: Nassau, Long Island, NY
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Most districts are overloaded with administrators who earn truly outrageous salaries. If you examine it closely administatrator contracts put teacher contracts to shame.
The administrators are able to jockey for position only because they demand "more" than what the union teachers get since they are "management." If we didn't have unions setting the scale for the employees who are technically lower on the totem pole than administrators like teachers, the administrators wouldn't have a leg to stand on with their outrageous demands. They feed each other.
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Old 05-14-2010, 02:13 PM
 
Location: East Northport
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I am also saying that there are way more administrators then we need. You could put a big dent in school budgets without reducing services or increasing class sizes simply by drastically reducing the number of highly paid administrators.
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Old 05-14-2010, 02:15 PM
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Because they get to set their own rules.

Just like the criminal from Roslyn SITTING IN JAIL and still receiving his six figure pension even while the taxpayers are supporting him in jail. It wasn't suspended for one day when it should have been rescinded because he committed a million dollar crime against his employer.
He's already out of jail. Frank Tassone... he should absolutely donate every piece of his pension he doesen't need for minimal survival back to the taxpayers of Roslyn and NYS.
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