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Old 05-24-2010, 12:50 PM
 
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What about all of those who didn't vote? How do they feel? See, that's what you have to prove, otherwise your inference that LIers are OK with the education costs is wrong.
Uhh, they obviously didn't care either way since they didn't go out and vote.

If they did care, their concern was not stronger than their concern to get rained on. Negligible.
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Old 05-24-2010, 12:52 PM
 
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Uhh, they obviously didn't care either way since they didn't go out and vote.

If they did care, their concern was not stronger than their concern to get rained on. Negligible.
Oh ok, so they didn't care... what facts do you have to back that up? How do you know indifference related to the costs of education is the reason they didn't vote?
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Old 05-24-2010, 12:53 PM
 
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Oh ok, so they didn't care... what facts do you have to back that up? How do you know indifference related to the costs of education is the reason they didn't vote?
I'm done feeding you. You are getting ridiculous. The fact is they did not feel the urge to vote.
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Old 05-24-2010, 12:53 PM
 
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What about all of those who didn't vote? How do they feel? See, that's what you have to prove, otherwise your inference that LIers are OK with the education costs is wrong.
That puts presumption on the side of the affirmative - and there it never belongs.

You are indicting the status quo.

The status quo indicates that the manner with which we officially gauge public sentiment is with a vote. Whereas she has empirical measure on her side, you've somehow divined the "actual" support.

Well, looking into your crystal ball and find Amelia Earhart too, while yer at it?
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Old 05-24-2010, 12:55 PM
 
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Whereas she has empirical measure on her side, you've somehow divined the "actual" support.
"She"???
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Old 05-24-2010, 12:55 PM
 
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That puts presumption on the side of the person affirmative - and there it never belongs.

You are indicting the status quo.

The status quo indicates that the manner with which we officially gauge public sentiment is with a vote. Whereas she has empirical measure on her side, you've somehow divined the "actual" support.

Well, looking into your crystal ball and find Amelia Earhart too, while yer at it?
Since when does a school vote in which what, 3-5% of those eligible to vote actually vote constitute public sentiment? Yikes... I hope you aren't a product of LI public education.
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Old 05-24-2010, 12:58 PM
 
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Since when does a school vote in which what, 3-5% of those eligible to vote actually vote constitute public sentiment? Yikes... I hope you aren't a product of LI public education.
Uh, since modern democracy was put into place.

We (read: statisticians) know that 100% voter turnout is never going to happen. You can't somehow try to figure out what the people who didn't vote, would have voted, unless you explicitly asked them. I didn't, did you?
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Old 05-24-2010, 12:58 PM
 
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Since when does a school vote in which what, 3-5% of those eligible to vote actually vote constitute public sentiment? Yikes... I hope you aren't a product of LI public education.
The only operationalization of public sentiment that counts is the vote.

There are "ideal" measures and "functional" measures. She and I use functional measures - the only one that law and precedent care about.

You keep using Fox News polls.
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Old 05-24-2010, 01:00 PM
 
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Uh, since modern democracy was put into place.

We (read: statisticians) know that 100% voter turnout is never going to happen. You can't somehow try to figure out what the people who didn't vote, would have voted, unless you explicitly asked them. I didn't, did you?
So you (statistician) can say that the turnout is statistically significant? Please do so, I need another good laugh.
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Old 05-24-2010, 01:02 PM
 
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Default More nonsense, lay off the pipe

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The only operationalization of public sentiment that counts is the vote.

There are "ideal" measures and "functional" measures. She and I use functional measures - the only one that law and precedent care about.

You keep using Fox News polls.
Fox news? Take your hate elsewhere, I never mentioned any party affiliation or fox news. You have issues pal.

You can use your functional measure all you want, it is not a significant sample size to make the assertion that LIers are OK with education expenses, no ifs ands or buts about it. You and Kay are wrong.
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