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Just thought I would bump this thread and again request some legitimate information about any kind of pornography industry existing in the SF Valley at all....and if there are no entry level positions, that means there is no industry anymore.
Here is what wiki says....notice all the "citations needed".
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The Valley became the pioneering region for producing adult films in the 1970s and since then has been home to a multi-billion dollar pornography industry, earning the monikers "Porn Valley", "San Pornando Valley", or "Silicone Valley"—a play on Silicon Valley with silicone breast implants. The leading trade paper for the industry, AVN Magazine, is based in the Northwest Valley, as are a majority of the nation's adult video and magazine distributors.[citation needed] According to the HBO series Porn Valley, nearly 90% of all legally distributed pornographic films made in the United States are either filmed in or produced by studios based in the San Fernando Valley.[citation needed] Most studios are based in Chatsworth, Van Nuys, and Canoga Park.[citation needed]
Wow! You seem to have some animosity towards those in the porn industry. Those who work at Nuclear Power stations risk their lives. Those who work in labs analyzing diseases risk their lives. Those who work in the armed forces risk their lives. Every one of these occupations are done by others for the benefit of the entire population of the United States. Why is it okay for these men and women to risk their lives for complete strangers, but not okay for those in the porn industry to make the same choice? You may not like porn, you may not agree with it, and you might even feel in some way threatened by or jealous of the people who work in porn, but that is your hang-up to deal with and shouldn't lead to such unfair judgements of people you don't know. I've heard of porn actors/actresses using their money to help a loved one go through cancer treatments or to put their children through better schools. Some have used their earnings to put themselves through school. Some have used their money to pay off debts. Not all of them squander their money on drugs.
I admire them for supporting themselves and their families instead of sitting on their asses and expecting the tax payer to support them.
Their bodies, their choices.
I don't give a rat's @ss about "risking your life" for a job. If you choose to do porn for a living you have serious mental issues or absolutely nothing of value to offer society. Others are victims. That's my take on it. If you want to tell yourself I'm "jealous" that sort of proves my point. Sorry.
I don't give a rat's @ss about "risking your life" for a job. If you choose to do porn for a living you have serious mental issues or absolutely nothing of value to offer society. Others are victims. That's my take on it. If you want to tell yourself I'm "jealous" that sort of proves my point. Sorry.
Again, you make some pretty serious allegations against people based on nothing other than their profession. Some mental health professionals could make a good argument that people like yourself who have such negative impressions about others based only on their profession might be suffering from some sort of mental or emotional dysfunction which prevents rational thinking.
I think that anyone who judges others so harshly without knowing anything about them or their lives is suffering from a mental defect and that their negative and totally uninformed rants offer nothing of value to a reasonable, rational and mature discussion. I also know that those who suffer from religious mania, sexual dysfunction, poor body image or a serious lack of self-esteem are also highly prone to making unfair and cruel judgements against others based on a twisted, immature or irrational belief system.
In YOUR opinion pornography, and probably other aspects of the sex industry offer nothing of value to society. However, those of us with a more mature and rational outlook know that the sex industry and those who work in it do indeed offer something of value to society. For couples suffering from some forms of sexual dysfunction pornography serves as a form of therapy. It can serve the same purpose for those who are physically disabled and unable to seek a normal sexual relationship with another. For shut-ins and the incredibly shy or introverted it offers a way to obtain sexual release which they would otherwise find difficult to obtain. Then there are those people who society judges as not attractive, and so have only prostitutes or pornography to turn to as an outlet for sexual fulfillment. Some people have spouses/partners who are suffering from a dibilitating illness which disallows or discourages sexual contact, and in many cases the ill spouse/partner recognizes that their healthy spouse/partner needs some form of sexual outlet.
Of course, some of us just really enjoy watching porn with our spouse/partner to add a little extra spice to the usual bag of tricks. You'd probably be surprised to learn just how many marriages or relationships these porn actors/actresses have helped to save and put back on a healthy and loving track. I applaud these brave men and women for so generously sharing their talents, skills and bodies with the rest of us
I don't give a rat's @ss about "risking your life" for a job. If you choose to do porn for a living you have serious mental issues or absolutely nothing of value to offer society. Others are victims. That's my take on it. If you want to tell yourself I'm "jealous" that sort of proves my point. Sorry.
I WACTH PORN. porn porn porrrrrrrrrrrnnnnnnnnnnnn!
I applaud these brave men and women for so generously sharing their talents, skills and bodies with the rest of us
Ahh...umm...brave? If you've known a reasonable number of folks in the biz, "brave" may not be the most appropriate adjective to describe them. Many describe a desperate situation they've gotten themselves into, controlled by a local pseudo-mafia/drug operation, and have little choice but to continue doing something they've long tired of, not in the interest of building up a nest egg, but to attempt to keep up with a growing debt, and/or avoid negative repercussions of trying to opt out.
Living amongst such will open your eyes.
Ahh...umm...brave? If you've known a reasonable number of folks in the biz, "brave" may not be the most appropriate adjective to describe them. Many describe a desperate situation they've gotten themselves into, controlled by a local pseudo-mafia/drug operation, and have little choice but to continue doing something they've long tired of, not in the interest of building up a nest egg, but to attempt to keep up with a growing debt, and/or avoid negative repercussions of trying to opt out.
Living amongst such will open your eyes.
Yes, I'm sure you are right in the fact that some do get stuck in the business due to desperation, drug addiction or control by an organized crime outfit. But then again, the same could be said of nearly any occupation where one goes in to it as a "temporary" measure and then end up stuck in it for years.
My comments are directed towards those who see it as a legitimate business enterprise and go in to it because this is how they WANT to make money. Over the last 10 or 15 years the industry has seen more legitimate, non-crime connected porn hitting the market, with women becoming more involved as producers.
Any industry is going to have their "rogue" or criminal elements, from police officers to CEOs. Sexual pressure by bosses in the workplace is still an ongoing concern, where women, and even men, are harassed into a sexual relationship in order to retain their job, earn a raise or obtain a promotion. Yes, there are laws governing sexual harassment, but how many are willing to report and then carry through, knowing full well that getting another job is going to be very difficult? Mainstream business can be just as dirty as the porn industry.
Tera Patrick - BS in Biology and an AAS degree in nursing from Boise State University.
Gen Padova – A UCLA graduate, with Bachelor of Science degree majoring in Biochemistry and a Bachelor of Arts in Visual Arts.
Calli Cox – Has a degree in middle level education from Eastern Illinois University, and was teaching 8th grade English before getting into porn.
TJ Hart – Graduated with a triple major in psychology, sociology and art, with a minor in early childhood education from the University of Colorado. She was also member of the 1988 US Olympic swim team.
Ron Jeremy – Used to be a teacher, making good use of his bachelor's degree in education and theatre and a master's degree in special education from Queens College in New York.
Nina Hartley – Graduated magna *** laude from San Francisco State University's nursing school, and is a registered nurse.
Juli Ashton – A Colorado State University graduate, with a degree in Spanish and History. She subsequently taught Spanish at a junior high school before she caught the porn bug.
Joanna Angel – has a Bachelor of Arts degree in English Literature with a minor in Film Studies from Rutgers University.
Audrey Hollander - Graduated from Loyola University Chicago with a degree in Elementary Education.
Lexington Steele – Earned a double degree in History and African-American studies from Syracuse University.
Bobbi Starr - Holds a music degree from San Jose State University. She is currently a pre-med student, aiming to become a gynecologist.
Laurie Wallace – Not only did she graduate summa *** laude with a double major in German and political science from Loyola College in Maryland, she also attended law school at George Washington University.
Lisa Sparxxx – This pornstar who holds a world record for having sex with 919 men in the space of a day has a Master of Arts degree in Multimedia with a minor in Business from the University of Kentucky.
Mika Tan - She studied at the San Diego State University en route to a Bachelor's degree in Biochemistry and an Associate's degree in Psychology.
Dave Cummings – Currently laying claim to the title "oldest active male pornstar", Cummings has both a Bachelor of Science degree in Economics and a Masters Degree in Public Administration. To top it of, he also used to be a Lieutenant Colonel in the United States Army.
Shy Love – A certified public accountant, having earned both a bachelor's and a master's degree in accounting.
Careena Collins - Graduated with a law degree
Selena Silver – finished university with a degree in Marine Science
Mandingo - has a Bachelor of Arts in Communications.
Wow! Certainly knocks down the narrow-minded belief held by some that all porn stars must be "retarded," "have serious mental issues," be "too dumb" to do anything else, are "brain dead" or provide "nothing of value to society."
Tera Patrick - BS in Biology and an AAS degree in nursing from Boise State University.
Gen Padova – A UCLA graduate, with Bachelor of Science degree majoring in Biochemistry and a Bachelor of Arts in Visual Arts.
Calli Cox – Has a degree in middle level education from Eastern Illinois University, and was teaching 8th grade English before getting into porn.
TJ Hart – Graduated with a triple major in psychology, sociology and art, with a minor in early childhood education from the University of Colorado. She was also member of the 1988 US Olympic swim team.
Ron Jeremy – Used to be a teacher, making good use of his bachelor's degree in education and theatre and a master's degree in special education from Queens College in New York.
Nina Hartley – Graduated magna *** laude from San Francisco State University's nursing school, and is a registered nurse.
Juli Ashton – A Colorado State University graduate, with a degree in Spanish and History. She subsequently taught Spanish at a junior high school before she caught the porn bug.
Joanna Angel – has a Bachelor of Arts degree in English Literature with a minor in Film Studies from Rutgers University.
Audrey Hollander - Graduated from Loyola University Chicago with a degree in Elementary Education.
Lexington Steele – Earned a double degree in History and African-American studies from Syracuse University.
Bobbi Starr - Holds a music degree from San Jose State University. She is currently a pre-med student, aiming to become a gynecologist.
Laurie Wallace – Not only did she graduate summa *** laude with a double major in German and political science from Loyola College in Maryland, she also attended law school at George Washington University.
Lisa Sparxxx – This pornstar who holds a world record for having sex with 919 men in the space of a day has a Master of Arts degree in Multimedia with a minor in Business from the University of Kentucky.
Mika Tan - She studied at the San Diego State University en route to a Bachelor's degree in Biochemistry and an Associate's degree in Psychology.
Dave Cummings – Currently laying claim to the title "oldest active male pornstar", Cummings has both a Bachelor of Science degree in Economics and a Masters Degree in Public Administration. To top it of, he also used to be a Lieutenant Colonel in the United States Army.
Shy Love – A certified public accountant, having earned both a bachelor's and a master's degree in accounting.
Careena Collins - Graduated with a law degree
Selena Silver – finished university with a degree in Marine Science
Mandingo - has a Bachelor of Arts in Communications.
Wow! Certainly knocks down the narrow-minded belief held by some that all porn stars must be "retarded," "have serious mental issues," be "too dumb" to do anything else, are "brain dead" or provide "nothing of value to society."
Not to me it doesn't. Drugs, alcohol, rotting brains, abuse, mental illness, really low self estem, maybe they owe something to the wrong people? You can't legitimize it, sorry. Have you every heard things like "too bad, they had so much potential"? Yea, you just showed where that came from.
If you want to F*** on film go ahead. But don't try to convince me there isn't something wrong with you.
Not to me it doesn't. Drugs, alcohol, rotting brains, abuse, mental illness, really low self estem, maybe they owe something to the wrong people? You can't legitimize it, sorry. Have you every heard things like "too bad, they had so much potential"? Yea, you just showed where that came from.
If you want to F*** on film go ahead. But don't try to convince me there isn't something wrong with you.
Actually, it isn't something I would consider doing for a living, but considering that I am a fairly well-rounded and normal grandmother if I DID decide to go into this line of work it wouldn't suddenly alter my normalacy, my ethics or integrity. You just have a personal hang-up.
Actually, it isn't something I would consider doing for a living, but considering that I am a fairly well-rounded and normal grandmother if I DID decide to go into this line of work it wouldn't suddenly alter my normalacy, my ethics or integrity. You just have a personal hang-up.
IMO, what fascinates me about choosing to become a porn actress isn't whether it's degrading, demeaning, etc. or not. That's an individual's choice. And, I'm the last guy in the world to be judgmental about social behavior.
What fascinates me is that a porn actress has to absorb society's stigma of porn actresses. IMO, I dare say 90%+ of guys watch porn. But probably less than 25% would consider marrying a porn actress. Ironically, I think this stigma works against porn actresses, and less porn actors. I don't find woman to be turned off by men w/ extensive sexual histories.
With that stigma in mind, why choose porn when other professions could pay just as much?
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