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Old 12-20-2011, 05:04 PM
 
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This happened to me once. Write a letter and explain (and include any photocopies or other evidence showing you had ordered the tags when you were issued the 2nd ticket). They should dismiss the second ticket.
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Old 12-20-2011, 11:09 PM
 
Location: SoCal, Idaho
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The OP was attempting to comply with the law - by ordering new tags. Use of the court for it's intended purpose is not wasting time. A plea of guilty or not guilty is not a matter of "correct" or not "correct" - pleading not guilty allows the OP to protect her rights under the law and requires the state to prove it's case beyond a reasonable doubt. You 1200RT are the enemy of liberty and responsible governmemt in our republic if you would discourage someone from taking action to defend themselves. Let the system work.
Oh man. I certainly am very very far from an enemy of liberty. As I said before, I just take issue with people admitting wrong doing and using 'our system' as a way to wriggle out of personal responsibility. Our system is designed to protect those needing protection - weather because of innocence OR unfair processes (even if guilty). Our system only works when it is filled with those with the maturity to take responsibility when they make a mistake.

In this case, it is extremely obvious that the OP is only looking to get out repercussions brought on by their own mistake. Surely those that instituted 'our system' would have wanted this person to admit their faults, fix them, and move forward.
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Old 12-21-2011, 09:48 AM
 
Location: Seattle
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OK first of all, you are *not guilty* of driving with expired tags if you paid the bill, are waiting for the tags to arrive in the mail, and are pulled over with expired registration, it is not against the law to drive with an expired tag if you paid the bill and are waiting to receive the tags from the DMV. You should absolutely challenge this and it is very clearly stated in the vehicle code that it is not against the law.

Please, don't post on this thread nonsense legal "advice" that the OP is committing "perjury" in any way shape or form. This is a federal offense punishable by jailtime and has no basis in a discussion about traffic violations and how to plead.

This is the vehicle code:

Registration Tabs

5204. (a) Except as provided by subdivisions (b) and (c), a tab shall indicate the year of expiration and a tab shall indicate the month of expiration. Current month and year tabs shall be attached to the rear license plate assigned to the vehicle for the last preceding registration year in which license plates were issued, and, when so attached, the license plate with the tabs shall, for the purposes of this code, be deemed to be the license plate, except that truck tractors, and commercial motor vehicles having a declared gross vehicle weight of 10,001 pounds or more, shall display the current month and year tabs upon the front license plate assigned to the truck tractor or commercial motor vehicle. Vehicles that fail to display current month and year tabs or display expired tabs are in violation of this section.

(b) The requirement of subdivision (a) that the tabs indicate the year and the month of expiration does not apply to fleet vehicles subject to Article 9.5 (commencing with Section 5300) or vehicles defined in Section 468.

(c) Subdivision (a) does not apply when proper application for registration has been made pursuant to Section 4602 and the new indicia of current registration have not been received from the department.

(d) This section is enforceable against any motor vehicle that is driven, moved, or left standing upon a highway, or in an offstreet public parking facility, in the same manner as provided in subdivision (a) of Section 4000.
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Old 12-21-2011, 10:09 AM
 
Location: Seattle
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Judge: Was your car parked on the street without valid registration?
OP: Yes, Sir.
Judge: Twice?
OP: Yes, Sir.
Judge: So your entered plea of 'not-guilty' is incorrect, as you just admitted to the crime (twice).
OP: Yes, I suppose you're right, Sir.

.... the fact of the matter here is that the OP was not trying to comply with the law. The first citation was warning enough to clean up your business. The OP did not, and as such was cited. People use this forum time and time again to beef about law enforcement and/or parking enforcement after they have freely admitted wrongdoing. These posts waste this forum's time, equally as much as wasting the court's time if contested.

Take some responsibility here, people. You made a mistake, now pay up.
I think you should take some responsibility to actually understand a situation before telling someone they "broke the law" and for them to "take some responsibility."
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Old 07-26-2013, 10:13 PM
 
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Sorry to bump an old thread...

My wife's 2013 registration sticker got stolen from her plate. Didn't notice until she got a ticket for expired tags.

Then, the next day, as we were filling out the application for a replacement sticker, she got another ticket.

She went to the DMV the next day and got a replacement sticker because we didn't want to wait and collect more tickets.

We're contesting the tickets. Going to send a copy of the registration showing that it was current, as well as a photo of the replacement sticker.

Any other advice or pointers of what we can send or how to contest it?

Thank you.
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Old 07-26-2013, 10:35 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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Sorry to bump an old thread...

My wife's 2013 registration sticker got stolen from her plate. Didn't notice until she got a ticket for expired tags.

Then, the next day, as we were filling out the application for a replacement sticker, she got another ticket.

She went to the DMV the next day and got a replacement sticker because we didn't want to wait and collect more tickets.

We're contesting the tickets. Going to send a copy of the registration showing that it was current, as well as a photo of the replacement sticker.

Any other advice or pointers of what we can send or how to contest it?

Thank you.
You can conduct a trial by written declaration (explained on the back of your citation), or show up in person and tell the judge exactly what you told us.

Unless the judge us a total douchebag, you will have the case dismissed and not have to pay a thing (though you will have to pay a bail amount at your arraignment when you plead guilty, which will be returned to you at the trial so long as you are found not guilty).

The tags were stolen, so you should not be responsible for them not being affixed to the plate.

Good luck.
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