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Old 12-30-2011, 11:11 AM
 
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^You are spreading horrible misinformation. I have been to Ventura/San bernandino/Temecula/San CLemente and they have nothing to do with LA. You should just include PS and SD as LA then. PS is the same distance as some of the places above you've listed. No sense.
I never said that those areas are similar. Just like the valley isn't similar to Santa Monica, and downtown isn't similar to San Pedro. But I consider them to all be LA. Screw city limits and county lines. It's all one continuous cluster****. And distance? Well how long does it take to go from south Orange county to north Los Angeles city (not even county)? Not as long as going from Riverside to downtown LA. But it doesn't matter distance or time b/c, like I said, it's all one big mess of cities with the only breakup in the land being parks. Everything else is residential or commercial. It's all Southern California, which is Los Angeles.

Just my 2 cents.

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Old 12-30-2011, 11:17 AM
 
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I'm annoyed when people refer to Riverside as Los Angeles. If you look at the two on a map they're quite a drive away, especially with L.A. traffic. I would say Los Angeles and Orange counties count as Los Angeles.
And without traffic it's 50 minutes to downtown. Big deal. From my experience, LA doesn't just refer to city limits, unless specifically stated. It refers to Southern California. OC, LA, the IE, and Ventura county are Southern California. That's my opinion.
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Old 12-30-2011, 11:25 AM
 
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I think places like L.A. and Chicago, where the boundaries are not so clearly defined by rivers or other things, that they do blend together for people not from the area. They are different then places like the New York city area where, Long Island, ManHatten, and Brooklyn/Queens are delineated by the fact that they are islands. You have to cross a bridge to get to these places, where as going from say Hollywood to Santa Monica, You are not crossing such clearly defined boundaries.
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Old 12-30-2011, 12:10 PM
 
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Here's the only correct answer:

To say you are really from LA, you must be from:
-The city of LA
-Santa Monica
-Culver City
-Beverly Hills
-West Hollywood
-San Fernando
-Certain unincorporated parts of LA county like MDR and Ladera Heights
-Glendale (pushing it)
-Burbank (pushing it)

But city of LA, Beverly Hills, Culver City, WeHo, and Santa Monica are pretty much synonymous with each other. The four small cities above are pretty much completely surrounded with LA and are filled with traditional LA culture that the South Bay and SGV does not have. Santa Monica barely differs from Venice or Brentwood. Culver City is just like Mar Vista and West LA. Beverly Hills is like Westwood or Century City. WeHo is like Miracle Mile or Hollywood. Glendale/Burbank are much like the rest of the SFV. The culture and neighborhoods do not change as a result of city limits.

If you are from the South Bay or SGV, the appropriate answer within LA county is to say you are from Pasadena, TOrrance, etc. To outsiders, you are from the suburbs of LA, or "near LA". However if you live in SGV and South Bay and claim to be form LA, it's much more excusable than being from Ventura, Long Beach, or OC and claiming you're from LA.

Nothing makes my blood boil more than some idiot from Anaheim or Thousand Oaks saying they are from "here." No, you have nothing to do with LA. You have more in common with Ohio.

If youre from OC, LB, Ventura, or the outer reaches of LA county (Claremont?), even saying you're in the suburbs of LA is a stretch.
So according to your demigod like command of the Laws of Nature, some dude who lives in TO and commutes downtown to work in a bank is just like someone in Ohio?
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Old 12-30-2011, 09:39 PM
 
Location: Earth
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Then let the SFV go like they wanted to in 2002. It was the rest of "LA" that kept the SFV part of the city of LA. It is like the basin considers the SFV as LA when it is convienient for them (ie. $$$tax$$$), but otherwise they shun it and don't consider it "LA". .
The tax $$$$$$ is only there from porn nowadays.

The studios in the Valley are not within city limits. Even Universal is not actually within the territory of the city of L.A. but is unincorporated county territory, although surrounded by the L.A. neighborhoods of Studio City, Toluca Lake, and North Hollywood. Warners is in Burbank.

IMO, the Valley can and should go. What stopped the Valley from going was that it would have remained part of LAUSD if it had seceded and it wouldn't have created another Burbank or Calabasas - it would've created another San Francisco considering how big the Valley City would've been.
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Old 12-30-2011, 11:45 PM
 
Location: Here&There
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This is just stupid.

If you live in Los Angeles county you're technically from LA! Anyone local is going to understand the neighborhood system we use. And if you're talking to someone local you're going to say your neighborhood/city. If you're talking to someone who isn't local saying you're from LA is fine. Los Angeles = SoCal except for San Diego.
My conversational answers about where I'm from when I'm out of state usually goes:

Irvine
-?
Orange County
-?
Los Angeles (though I hate saying it because O.C. and L.A. are very different though I've spent a lot of time there (Santa Monica, NoHo, Pasadena, Beverly Hills, Dowtown L.A.) I still feel uncomfortable saying it)
-Oh, ok.
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Old 12-31-2011, 08:57 PM
 
Location: La Cañada
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I believe that the limit is the county. When I and my family traveled, even abroad, we said we were from Los Angeles. I suppose everyone recognizes LA, but maybe not Glendale, etc. So, no, I don't live in the city, but I do live in the county--and I think that it's totally fine to say "I'm from LA" in that instance.
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Old 01-01-2012, 01:28 PM
 
Location: The Big Apple and Shytown and Miami and Dallas and Milwalkie and St Paul-Mineopolis n DCMV n WestBay
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I have lived abroad for many years. If I say Los Angeles, it's the end of that conversation, even if you live in Orange, Ventura or San Bern counties. They wouldn't know if you told them specifically. Americans or those who have been to SoCal, would ask what part of LA. If you ask a person from LA, they ask what street, especially if they they have been in that neighborhood.
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Old 01-03-2012, 12:06 PM
 
Location: DFW
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Here's the only correct answer:

To say you are really from LA, you must be from:
-The city of LA
-Santa Monica
-Culver City
-Beverly Hills
-West Hollywood
-San Fernando
-Certain unincorporated parts of LA county like MDR and Ladera Heights
-Glendale (pushing it)
-Burbank (pushing it)

But city of LA, Beverly Hills, Culver City, WeHo, and Santa Monica are pretty much synonymous with each other. The four small cities above are pretty much completely surrounded with LA and are filled with traditional LA culture that the South Bay and SGV does not have. Santa Monica barely differs from Venice or Brentwood. Culver City is just like Mar Vista and West LA. Beverly Hills is like Westwood or Century City. WeHo is like Miracle Mile or Hollywood. Glendale/Burbank are much like the rest of the SFV. The culture and neighborhoods do not change as a result of city limits.

If you are from the South Bay or SGV, the appropriate answer within LA county is to say you are from Pasadena, TOrrance, etc. To outsiders, you are from the suburbs of LA, or "near LA". However if you live in SGV and South Bay and claim to be form LA, it's much more excusable than being from Ventura, Long Beach, or OC and claiming you're from LA.

Nothing makes my blood boil more than some idiot from Anaheim or Thousand Oaks saying they are from "here." No, you have nothing to do with LA. You have more in common with Ohio.

If youre from OC, LB, Ventura, or the outer reaches of LA county (Claremont?), even saying you're in the suburbs of LA is a stretch.
Maybe just say you're from "LA County" if you're from, say, Palmdale, Claremont, Long Beach, etc.

It's technically correct and not that difficult for others to figure out, even if they're from another side of the country.

And say you're from "Orange County" if you're from Irvine, Newport Beach, Santa Ana, etc. Same goes for every county.
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Old 01-03-2012, 02:41 PM
 
Location: Texas
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ragnarkar: Don't entirely agree, but okay. Then again, if you tell some Frenchman you're from LA, they'll ask all about Hollywood, Beverly Hills, movie stars, Santa Monica, Lakers, LA culture and history etc. which you have minimal experience with being from OC (unless you lived in LA before and moved to OC)

What makes us LA?

Hollywood Walk of Fame, Santa Monica beach/3rd st promenade, Venice boardwalk, Sunset Blvd especially the strip, Hollywood Blvd especially near Vine, Ventura Blvd and its many eclectic spots, Universal Studios, The new downtown with LA Live Staples Center, USC, UCLA, the LAKERS, Tony Villar, Griffith Park, Macarthur Park, Main St Santa Monica, abbott kinney, Downtown Culver City, The Grove, Beverly Center, West Hollywood's gayborhood, Miracle Mile and Park La Brea, the many fun shops along Melrose/Beverly/3rd, Chinatown, Los feliz and vermont ave + thai town, Silverlake bars and restaurants, Koreatown and its karaoke, all you can eat bbqs, East LA and its authentic Mexican food, Hollywood Bowl, Pinks tacos, Tommyburgers, THE DODGERS, inept city government (see Tony Villar), the failed subway line, kayaking in marina del rey, the hell known as LAX, museum of natural history in south central and also LACMA in miracle mile, the quinteessnetial LA suburb of the sfv and all its history and farmland, and waste and malls, union station, little tokyo, rodeo drive and beverly hills, south beverly hills by olympic and pico, the historic jewish neighborhoods and delis among pico and the museum of tolerance, The 10 freeway, the evil 405 which everyone hates, knowing secret routes and when to leave and go, knowing side streets, knowing san vicente curves diagnoal, holmby hill sand bel air and its mansions, knowing hte back routes to the sfv among bel air and bh, going to the original coffee bean on san vicente in brentwood, speeding up and down bundy and barrington and visiting the heart of LA's westside, westwood villag eand its historic significance and knowing it declind after karen toshima, finding a cheap apartment in palms beause you know its a cheap safe westside neighborhood, relaxing on venice blvd in mar vista and trying many eclectic eateries and shops, In n out burger, santa monica pier, runyon canyon and knowing what it's about, knowing what everytihng from cliftons to umami burger is... I could go on and on for hours.

These are experiences myself and other LA natives have had. If you're from a suburb or OC you haven't done all of this stuff, unless you lived in LA first.

I"ve met many people in social settings and I ask where they're from, they reply with "LA" or "here". So I say, what part? More often than not the answer is something like Newport Beach, Valencia, Corona, etc. You are not from LA.You are from a suburb, or a whole other city and county.
^ ^ ^ ^

That's what I'm talkin' 'bout!! That is L.A. We're twin sons from different mothers. I grew up in South Central and lived in L.A. for forty years. 90047. You hit the nail on the head. Represent!!
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