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Old 03-06-2012, 09:57 AM
 
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Part 3:

Well, to make matters worse, the parents/owners were starting to stay away on long visits w/one of their family members, due to personal health matters, kept them staying away from home alot, during weeknights to the weekends & everyone of the family members would tell us "You have the house to yourselves" us thinking, ok, peace & quiet, plus I can do laundry......That was totally incorrect. Parents were gone, son wasn't. The other son w/girlfriend and daughter (the granddaughter) were there on routine daily basis - another thing that was misconstrued, this were one set of kids that moved out, (obviously nearby) because they came over everyday, mostly to eat dinner & have the parents babysit.....but there was no such thing as an empty "Quiet" house & as far as the laundry went, never happened, it was apparent they were all bothered. The son (mainly the older one) & his girlfriend seemed to be uncomfortable & also annoyed w/us when we attempted to do our laundry....I had decided I would start using the Laundromat, but why tell us we have laundry privileges when you don't want us to be inside your house...it was loud and clear they didn't want us anywhere, but to remain unseen and not bothered with us, but yet watching our every move...it was really starting to become uncomfortable....Although they had the nerve to be ok taking our money for the rent under those terms, which were never brought up when we first saw the room & not in the Ad they had posted in the Rentals section.

Us knowing we were looking to move out, I had my youngest daughter w/me, didn't really want her to come over, but she insisted & the regrets were there for me & my husband. We were met by the youngest son, who clearly kept gazing at my daughter, in front of me and my husband, & he told us "I will be gone most of the night, you'll have the house to yourselves"......Biggest lie we ever heard.....we fell asleep that evening at 9:30 pm, only to be rudely awaken by the other son, actually his loud mouth girlfriend, and a ton of what appeared to be minors that she hung out with from her job. It was someone's birthday and they decided to go out with/for this persons birthday and bring the party back to the house, with no regard to us, being that there were tenants living there too, they just completely ignored us & our well being, and continued w/the nightmare from hell, noise from 12:30 am until just short of 7 am...

Kids (Drunken Minors) were stumbling back & forth into the bathroom in the hallway located near our door (they have two bathrooms, one in the other room far away from our room, but apparently didn't offer it & no consideration for us again), two they turned on the speakers to the stereo (yes it was Radio) but it was FULL BLAST TO THE LOUDEST VOLUME and the noise of a party going on, w/alot of minors & young people involved. Between the Loud Music never stopping, and the constant back and forth of heels clanking on the wooden floors, slamming of the bathroom doors & the conversations that went on as they congregated near our bedroom, ontop of that, a couple times someone tried to open our door (assuming some young stud wanted to find a room to bed a young girl) yeah...it was a complete nightmare, what do we do?

And if that was not enough....A Fight broke out....to the extent of someone stating he had his gank (or whatever the slang term the dumb youngsters use for GUN) and was going to use it...it just really got bad.....because of us not wanting to get involved, esposing ourselves, my daughter, our lives & that we found out there were mostly minors drinking alcohol
(Amoungst other substances unknown), we didn't want any harassment from the Police....so we stayed quiet suffering till they finally broke up the fight (thought it was coming inside the/our room) and also had to hear "Bragger's Rights" for the last final hours of early morning, because I guess they felt they had to and didn't care if we got no sleep the entire night. A Television was damaged (screen cracked entirely), a kitchen window was cracked, both front yard wooden fence & back yard fence onto street were also damaged and torn to pieces.....I took pictures of the window & the front fence....till the time we came back to move our stuff..almost a month, it was still the same as no attempt to fix the cosmetic damages that were done.... (We were all so upset & very groggy/numbed from the disruption/debacle that occurred that night....)

That was the last time we stayed at that house......
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Old 03-06-2012, 10:06 AM
 
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Part 4/Final:

In hopes of trying to be discreet & considerate to these people, we started only staying there on the weekends & came w/stories of our own personal struggles as to why we were hardly there as much, which honestly at that point really didn't matter, but we tried.....it failed anyways.

We finally just gave them 3 weeks notice, and it was clear on the mothers voice she didn't believe my husband and was clearly upset.....

Also the story the kids that caused all that trouble was changed, as the father spoke of it in defense of his sons...

And Everyone in that household was upset at us??????? WHY? I have no effn idea, but they are in denial that there was alot of wrong doing, and to make it worse, they tried charging us almost $400 dollars for 1/3 of the Utilities, we were hardly there, and hardly used, if anything they should have tried getting that money from son number 1 (who they complained about blantantly in the beginning - of how lazy he was & how they wished he'd get a real job & move out) & the other son w/obnoxious girlfriend, (whom they also in the beginning complained about blantantly - another excuse that he was lazy, ran up the bills w/his gf while they did live there), also should have gone after his Girlfriend...it was apparent she still had a key to the house & was over all the time, eating dinner mom cooked for all, using up the internet, lights on, & pretty much taking advantage of the parents (as they all were...except for the one daughter & son-in-law that actually moved out & were very independent - they came over for one vist, but had enough respect for the parents to stay away, because they had their own home) but as for the rest of the kids (sadly adults legally, but that was just a number) they all used excess light, Heating - Central air was on all the time, loud TV, internet, it just got me, why not (since they are responsible for using it up all the time) go after the two sons & girlfriend (it puzzled me why she had full run of the house (& apparently controlled boyfriend & younger brother (???) especially since it was her party that caused all the damage & us to get out)......

After all (Lies) were said and done, we gave our story - never actually told them the truth about everything that went on, they were/are in disbelief that both their sons, & the major person responsible, their son's girlfriend could have ever caused such terrible things to happen, & that they all seriously had major issues going on there.......well the denial continues....

We just got the hell out......

They posted a new ad for Room for Rent, not detailing the fact that it is a smoking home, and now its 3 dogs living there, not 2 dogs like they told us. They are just going to tell the same lies they told us, & leave out the other pertinent detail that their oldest son, girlfriend & grandaughter practically live there too, they visit every single day...... I feel sorry for whoever moves in, unless its just a desperate struggling family (couple) just happy to be living in a room in a home....and that's exactly who'll they'll find is someone that's going to put up w/it sadly.....

And sounds like there could be a lawsuit not disclosing she smokes in the house and it goes straight into your bedroom (her room was divided by the room rental's bedroom wall.....

Needless to say we got out and were both much happier where were at now.....a nice single parent renting out a shared house situation (its been a month) no issues, no noise, peaceful and full use of kitchen and laundry, no problems or frowning w/it......

Anyhow, sorry for the long drawn out story, but its true, it really happened to us, so I'm telling you, I feel for you! And letting you know, unfortunately its not going to get resolved, because (based on mine/our personal experience) Property Management companies don't get involved when it comes to what the feel are "personal matters" & that you, the other tenant/party's involved should learn to get along and resolve it amongst each other" - clearly it's their standard disclaimer not to get involved (but they will forcefully get involved when it comes to Money issues)......I truly hope you get out & find something better soon......

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Old 03-06-2012, 10:06 AM
 
Location: Pasadena, CA
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Per my previous post, the awful mess continues.

The neighbors have gotten worse, and more BOLD with their crappy behavior. I do believe that they are trying to be EXTRA noisy, in the hopes that I will move. I talked to the property management today and she said that the neighbors have gone to her several times, claiming I had gone up to their apartment and harassed them.

Um, I went up there ONCE and asked nicely if they could keep the noise down. That was 6 months ago. And they apparently told other lies, such as my tv is too loud (I barely watch tv, and it's often at a low volume while I read, because I only like it as background noise), and that I told them not to shower so early in the morning....W.T.F.?! Such lies!

The sad thing is, the idiot management person tells me - the quiet, non-problematic tenant of TEN years who always pays her rent on time - that she doesn't know WHO to believe. Excuse me? I have a decade's worth of history with this building/tenants and there have NEVER been any issues. These people are brand new, out of nowhere, and they are a NIGHTMARE to live below.

So she said she won't "get in the middle" of things and we should all go to city mediation, or that if the noise is so bad, I should call the police. OR, "someone" should move - she meant me. I said, excuse ME, so I'm the one being bothered since these people moved in and you're hinting that I should move?! She said, well SOMEONE might want to, if they are uncomfortable with the noise level. I said, did you tell THEM that?? She said, yes and they said nothing because they don't WANT to move. Obviously. I asked if there were quiet hours in the building and she said yes, 10 pm-8 a.m. I said then how come they are playing hopscotch up there at 1 a.m., 2 a.m., 4 a.m., 6 a.m., and all the hours in between?? She said, I don't know what to tell you. I said, tell THEM to keep it down!! She said, I already did. I said, well they are not respecting what you said to them, and she said, I don't know who to believe because they say you are noisy. UM.

So, I think the neighbors' plan of attack is to make all kinds of unbelievable, random noise at all hours so that I'll get sick of this and move. Clearly, they are also making up outlandish lies to management, who for some reason seems to believe them.

Mind you, I HAVE been looking for months to move but can't find a reasonable/nice enough place that would work so far. I'm looking EVERY day, and been doing so since October. I am so tired all the time from lack of sleep, the stress, and because of these people, I'm getting ill. I can barely function during the day.

I don't know what to do, short of going upstairs and REALLY screaming at them - which I won't do, because I think the wife upstairs is CRAZY and they might do something worse next time.

Anyone have thoughts on this?? OR, anyone want to take these morons on for me, PLEASE?
Sounds like you are in a pretty tough spot. Maybe taking it to city mediation is the best choice?

I'm pretty passive aggressive - at this point I would just start Moderator cut: language with them back... make them decide it is worth it to move. If they are as boorish as you make them out to be, it may be an impossible task though.

As unfair as it is to you, it sounds like you might just have to move because the management has shown no interest in intervening.

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Old 03-06-2012, 10:32 AM
 
Location: Seattle
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Attach a subwoofer to the ceiling, and anytime they make noise, blast the thing. It will shake their place worse than what they are doing.

If they are going to accuse you of being noisy as hell and management won't believe you, just BE noisy as hell.
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Old 03-06-2012, 11:35 AM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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lol ... I thought you were looking to move out all this time.
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Old 03-06-2012, 11:57 AM
 
Location: Pasadena, CA
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Attach a subwoofer to the ceiling, and anytime they make noise, blast the thing. It will shake their place worse than what they are doing.

If they are going to accuse you of being noisy as hell and management won't believe you, just BE noisy as hell.
This is exactly what I would do.
Your management is obviously just a lazy pile, so I doubt they are going to take action on you.

I just thought about this, is your apartment rent controlled? Maybe the management wants you out so they can hike up the rent on your unit... the rent is probably already higher for your upstairs neighbors if they have only been there for a year.
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Old 03-06-2012, 12:46 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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Do whatever you have to in order to get out of that situation. Life is too short to be so miserable. As an apartment renter for over 10 years I feel your pain!
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Old 03-06-2012, 12:59 PM
 
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Call the police; there are city ordinances for noise issues. If it's not just them walking around at night, but more severe, you should be able to call the non emergency police line and file a complaint.

Sorry your management sucks. We live in a large complex, and fortunately the management sends a violation notice/reminder of quiet hours, for any complaint. If a tenant gets 3 of these, they are evicted.

We have new, nightmare neighbors downstairs, as well. ugh. we talked to them nicely at first, and they improved somewhat, but have no clue how to be apartment neighbors...so magmt sent them a letter, and still again last night, on the speaker phone, by the window, talking very loudly, at midnight! Sounds like your neighbors are similar. I agree, your rights to sleep at night, etc should take precedence over their right to make noise.

I really wish ppl would move into complexes that suit their lifestyle-ie, a party one with off hour people. Or, someone should start marketing this way- 'hey, w'ere the off hours rental community' or the 'dog rental community' the smokers complex, etc. It would make apt living so much easier, even as it's a bit socialist. but hey, it's also a good capitalist marketing move.

Good luck to you-i feel for you.....I personally would press management further, and see if other neighbors who have been there longer, as bothered by it, too?

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Old 03-06-2012, 01:13 PM
 
Location: Keystone State
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Call the police (non emergency number) the next time they make a racket during quiet hours, ask if you could file a formal complaint and find out what else you should do legally. If the apartment complex has a corporate office send a letter of complaint to them.

Good Luck!

Quote:
Originally Posted by HoliWood View Post
Per my previous post, the awful mess continues.

The neighbors have gotten worse, and more BOLD with their crappy behavior. I do believe that they are trying to be EXTRA noisy, in the hopes that I will move. I talked to the property management today and she said that the neighbors have gone to her several times, claiming I had gone up to their apartment and harassed them.

Um, I went up there ONCE and asked nicely if they could keep the noise down. That was 6 months ago. And they apparently told other lies, such as my tv is too loud (I barely watch tv, and it's often at a low volume while I read, because I only like it as background noise), and that I told them not to shower so early in the morning....W.T.F.?! Such lies!

The sad thing is, the idiot management person tells me - the quiet, non-problematic tenant of TEN years who always pays her rent on time - that she doesn't know WHO to believe. Excuse me? I have a decade's worth of history with this building/tenants and there have NEVER been any issues. These people are brand new, out of nowhere, and they are a NIGHTMARE to live below.

So she said she won't "get in the middle" of things and we should all go to city mediation, or that if the noise is so bad, I should call the police. OR, "someone" should move - she meant me. I said, excuse ME, so I'm the one being bothered since these people moved in and you're hinting that I should move?! She said, well SOMEONE might want to, if they are uncomfortable with the noise level. I said, did you tell THEM that?? She said, yes and they said nothing because they don't WANT to move. Obviously. I asked if there were quiet hours in the building and she said yes, 10 pm-8 a.m. I said then how come they are playing hopscotch up there at 1 a.m., 2 a.m., 4 a.m., 6 a.m., and all the hours in between?? She said, I don't know what to tell you. I said, tell THEM to keep it down!! She said, I already did. I said, well they are not respecting what you said to them, and she said, I don't know who to believe because they say you are noisy. UM.

So, I think the neighbors' plan of attack is to make all kinds of unbelievable, random noise at all hours so that I'll get sick of this and move. Clearly, they are also making up outlandish lies to management, who for some reason seems to believe them.

Mind you, I HAVE been looking for months to move but can't find a reasonable/nice enough place that would work so far. I'm looking EVERY day, and been doing so since October. I am so tired all the time from lack of sleep, the stress, and because of these people, I'm getting ill. I can barely function during the day.

I don't know what to do, short of going upstairs and REALLY screaming at them - which I won't do, because I think the wife upstairs is CRAZY and they might do something worse next time.

Anyone have thoughts on this?? OR, anyone want to take these morons on for me, PLEASE?
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Old 03-07-2012, 12:14 PM
 
Location: El Segundo/All of South Bay up to Palos Verdes
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HoliWood.

Do whatever it takes to either resolve your situation, (lots of good suggestions there) or keep on the hunt for a quiet decent place - I know, a hard task these days, I've been there, done that and yeah it just seems like peace & harmony amongst neighbors is becoming more challenging these days .......I feel for you, hope you get your resolution soon!!!!!

American Vintage,

WOW that was a long story, but you described your hell thoroughly, what awful people, but I have to say its kinda expected when your renting a room from someone's house, especially if their the owner, its a brutal because they offer you something that really isn't yours, whether your paying rent or not, theres really no contracts or rights for that matter (I might be wrong????) but most of the time, its their rules and their home, their noise, their family/guests, its just not always a good situation, unless your college student renting with other college students, or rent a room from an elderly person who lives by themselves (but even that can get kinda sticky)......so room rentals are usually not the best, but yeah sounds like that family was really ghetto, did you guys not see any red flags before agreeing to rent?


**Not trying to say anything negative, just observation here, but also I do understand the financial need (especially in todays times, economy & those having really bad credit ontop) that more & more are renting rooms, its just flat out rought out there...
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