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Old 01-08-2012, 01:39 PM
 
Location: East Side
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good to hear los angeles.
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Old 01-08-2012, 03:18 PM
 
Location: Earth
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While crime is not as bad as in the past, traffic, road conditions, and car accidents are worse than ever and present much more danger, therefore negating some of the gains made in fighting crime when looking at overall safety.

Going out on the roads in L.A. nowadays feels as scary as walking down Western Avenue did 30 years ago
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Old 01-08-2012, 06:13 PM
 
Location: Bay Area, Calif.
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While crime is not as bad as in the past, traffic, road conditions, and car accidents are worse than ever and present much more danger, therefore negating some of the gains made in fighting crime when looking at overall safety.

Going out on the roads in L.A. nowadays feels as scary as walking down Western Avenue did 30 years ago
....As did this comment.
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Old 01-09-2012, 03:18 PM
 
Location: Glendale, CA
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While crime is not as bad as in the past, traffic, road conditions, and car accidents are worse than ever and present much more danger, therefore negating some of the gains made in fighting crime when looking at overall safety.

Going out on the roads in L.A. nowadays feels as scary as walking down Western Avenue did 30 years ago
I swear some of you are such negative nellies.

Traffic fatalities in L.A. county (as of 2008) are 35% lower than they were in 1991. And that is just the pure number of traffic fatalities. If you look at the rate (per 100k individuals, or number of cars, or whatever), it has declined even more steeply.

Traffic Fatalities California 2008 Deaths

Oh, and in California as a whole:
"In 2009, California's traffic fatalities decreased 10.3 percent (3,434 vs. 3,081) - reaching their lowest level since the federal government began recording traffic fatalities in 1975. **
California 2009 Mileage Death Rate (MDR) - fatalities per 100 million miles traveled is 0.95, and marks the first time California has been below 1.0. California is much better than the national 1.14 MDR. **"
http://www.ots.ca.gov/OTS_and_Traffi...eport_Card.asp
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Old 01-10-2012, 05:35 PM
 
Location: Earth
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I swear some of you are such negative nellies.

Traffic fatalities in L.A. county (as of 2008) are 35% lower than they were in 1991. And that is just the pure number of traffic fatalities. If you look at the rate (per 100k individuals, or number of cars, or whatever), it has declined even more steeply.
There are far more accidents than there were in 1991.
Even if people don't get killed, cars are totalled and people are injured. And things have gotten worse since 2008.
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Old 01-10-2012, 05:56 PM
 
Location: Glendale, CA
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There are far more accidents than there were in 1991.
Even if people don't get killed, cars are totalled and people are injured. And things have gotten worse since 2008.
Data please.
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Old 01-10-2012, 06:41 PM
 
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Data please.
This covers 2009. Los Angeles is the deadliest city for motorists in California.

Los Angeles Had Highest Accident Injury Rates in 2009
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Old 01-10-2012, 08:15 PM
 
Location: Glendale, CA
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This covers 2009. Los Angeles is the deadliest city for motorists in California.

Los Angeles Had Highest Accident Injury Rates in 2009

Ha ha ha.. But seriously, a source other than a personal injury attorney website?

And also maybe something that compares L.A. to cities in other parts of the country, and maybe versus previous years?

Since, it was you that indicated that L.A. was "more dangerous" from a traffic perspective than it was a few years ago.
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Old 01-11-2012, 03:18 AM
 
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This covers 2009. Los Angeles is the deadliest city for motorists in California.

Los Angeles Had Highest Accident Injury Rates in 2009
Wait..Los Angeles is the by far, the biggest city in CA. So the traffic numbers will be high naturally. Why is that a surprise? (And yes I read the article and they don't provide any per capita rate comparisons)
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Old 01-11-2012, 03:26 AM
 
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I can't seem to get people to grasp the simple fundamental demographic reason for this decrease all over the United States: the Boomers are outgrowing violent crime. Also, only stupid criminals use guns anymore. Computer crime /ID theft is the new thing. The LE reps won't acknowledge this because they want to keep their funding at current levels.
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