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Old 01-18-2012, 01:19 PM
 
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Pedestrians and drivers share equal blame on this one, I've seen drivers do dumb things and I've seen pedestrians do dumb things. How many times have you seen people looking down at their iphone, texting or surfing the web, completely oblivious to their surroundings while crossing the street? Too many times to count!
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Old 01-18-2012, 01:40 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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Pedestrians and drivers share equal blame on this one, I've seen drivers do dumb things and I've seen pedestrians do dumb things. How many times have you seen people looking down at their iphone, texting or surfing the web, completely oblivious to their surroundings while crossing the street? Too many times to count!
The biggest offenders in S Cal are people not using the crosswalk at all.
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Old 01-18-2012, 02:02 PM
 
Location: Boulder Creek, CA
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How many times have you seen people looking down at their iphone, texting or surfing the web, completely oblivious to their surroundings while crossing the street?
Seen many more doing the same thing driving. Whereas dumb peds doing this might get themselves killed, those who make a habit of swervedriving while playing with their silly gadgets present the latest, greatest threat to one's health on the road these days.
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Old 01-18-2012, 02:47 PM
 
Location: Retired in Malibu/La Quinta/Flagstaff
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I've argued with state legislators that to effectively enforce the laws regarding using hand-held devices while driving, an officer who witnesses the violation should take possession of the device as evidence. I'm sure a lot of citizens would not be able to function if that ever happened.
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Old 01-18-2012, 04:35 PM
 
Location: Bay Area, Calif.
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There are signs around Sacramento that instruct drivers to "yield to crossing pedestrians" as they make turns. And previously, there have been undercover stings with traffic officers posing as pedestrians, meant to catch impatient or inattentive drivers...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAgCrtyh1Xo

Some drivers might see this as entrapment. But I dont care. Im tired of nearly getting slammed by inconsiderate drivers when I attempt to cross signal controlled streets, as if pedestrians have no rights. Cars and drivers actually do not rule the roads.

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Old 01-18-2012, 08:50 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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Here in So Cal, the one city you want to make damm sure you stop for pedestrians in a crosswalk is Glendale.
They do these sting operations all the time.
Bob.
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Old 01-19-2012, 10:31 AM
 
Location: Bay Area, Calif.
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You know what they say, look before you cross.
But to avoid a stupid lawsuit, it might be smart also to look before and while you drive.
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Old 01-21-2012, 01:38 PM
 
Location: The Chatterdome in La La Land, CaliFUNia
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Pedestrians and drivers share equal blame on this one, I've seen drivers do dumb things and I've seen pedestrians do dumb things. How many times have you seen people looking down at their iphone, texting or surfing the web, completely oblivious to their surroundings while crossing the street? Too many times to count!
I agree ... Just because pedestrians have the right of way does not mean they should just cross whenever they feel like it and expect traffic to cater to them ... (I'm a pedestrian BTW) ... I recalled my trip to NYC last summer and was appalled at how the pedestrians never waited for the walk signal but were just crossing when the cars had their right of way. I followed the signals and never had any problems crossing even though their pedestrian laws may be different.

Conversely, too many drivers are so focused on saving a few precious seconds that they unnecessary place pedestrians in danger. The biggest issue I've faced were those impatient right-hand turners on red. Right before my signal to walk appears, the vehicles from the opposing street are making their left hand turns into my lane. Once that clears, then the pedestrian signal comes on. Usually, the impatient vehicle waits for the left hand turners to turn then proceeds to try and cross on red but that's when MY signal appears. If they cross in front of me before I have a chance to start my cross, then I often have to wait for the next signal to cross! Unfortunately, I even had a cop do this .... Boy did I ever wish that I could have gotten his license plate or vehicle number to report him!

Drivers: Please realize that YOU can cross on red when safe but a pedestrian cannot so show some courtesy!

Of course, I think one of the biggest issue is the high number of drivers that have learned how to drive in countries where pedestrians DON'T have the right of way and then bring those driving habits to our streets.
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Old 01-21-2012, 01:40 PM
 
Location: The Chatterdome in La La Land, CaliFUNia
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The biggest offenders in S Cal are people not using the crosswalk at all.
Yup ... I see this all the time and left shaking my head and praying that they don't get hit I rather walk a few extra feet to get to a crosswalk versus trying to jaywalk across one of our crazy, traffic congested streets.
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Old 01-21-2012, 08:34 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles, CA
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Yup ... I see this all the time and left shaking my head and praying that they don't get hit I rather walk a few extra feet to get to a crosswalk versus trying to jaywalk across one of our crazy, traffic congested streets.
That's just not true. Sure people do cross at places other than the crosswalk, but most people don't. That's why you always hear about people getting hit in the crosswalk and rarely outside of one. Because most people do in fact use the crosswalk. By far the biggest offenders are drivers. Drivers roll through stop signs and drivers turning right on red will often stop inside the crosswalk without thinking that a pedestrian may be crossing. They also speed,...and you get the idea.

But it's different depending on where you are. In Orange County and other more suburban areas, people often do cross outside the crosswalk because traffic lights are often 1 mile apart which can turn a 5 minute direct walk into 20 minutes. Besides even when there's not a crosswalk pedestrians have the right of way at any intersection. Whether or not crossing at that intersection is jaywalking may be complicated based on where the next signal and crosswalk are located, but my understanding is that drivers are still required to yield the row.
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