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Old 01-22-2012, 03:08 AM
Location: San Francisco
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Sounds like what San Francisco has been for decades. Pedestrians are killed right and left in this town - even several a year by supposed "professionals" (MUNI bus drivers).
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Old 01-22-2012, 03:23 AM
Location: The Chatterdome in La La Land, CaliFUNia
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That's just not true. Sure people do cross at places other than the crosswalk, but most people don't. That's why you always hear about people getting hit in the crosswalk and rarely outside of one. Because most people do in fact use the crosswalk. By far the biggest offenders are drivers. Drivers roll through stop signs and drivers turning right on red will often stop inside the crosswalk without thinking that a pedestrian may be crossing. They also speed,...and you get the idea.

But it's different depending on where you are. In Orange County and other more suburban areas, people often do cross outside the crosswalk because traffic lights are often 1 mile apart which can turn a 5 minute direct walk into 20 minutes. Besides even when there's not a crosswalk pedestrians have the right of way at any intersection. Whether or not crossing at that intersection is jaywalking may be complicated based on where the next signal and crosswalk are located, but my understanding is that drivers are still required to yield the row.
Are you debating my observations? I'm a pedestrian and jaywalking IS something I see all the time, especially Downtown LA (Skid Row) and other parts of LA and Orange Counties. I DO agree that drivers represent a bigger issue in terms of pedestrian safety due to failure to yield the right-of-way but there ARE many pedestrians that needlessly risk their lives by crossing outside of crosswalks.
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