Expo Line - color designation? (Long Beach, Pasadena: transfer, airport, beach)

[wrcousert]

Does anyone know what color will be assigned to the Expo Line? If it isn't getting one, why not?

[Senshi]

It's going to be called Expo. The color will be aqua. It was suppose to be called Aqua line but people whined that it favored Santa Monica and didn't represent the entire line.

Of course, as I understand it, the lines are going to be changed once the downtown regional connector is built. But who knows with Metro.

[K 22]

Originally Posted by Senshi

Of course, as I understand it, the lines are going to be changed once the downtown regional connector is built. But who knows with Metro.

Once the connector's in place - the plan is for the Blue Line to go to Pasadena and beyond while Expo goes to the Eastside. Not sure where that leaves the Gold Line though.

[munchitup]

Originally Posted by K 22

Once the connector's in place - the plan is for the Blue Line to go to Pasadena and beyond while Expo goes to the Eastside. Not sure where that leaves the Gold Line though.

Gone, perhaps. Or maybe the Expo Line would adopt the Gold Line moniker.

[wrcousert]

How about something like this?

Blue Line: Long Beach <--> Pasadena, eventually Montclair.
Gold Line: Santa Monica <--> East LA, eventually Whittier and possibly La Habra
Aqua Line, or Expo: Downtown LA <--> Santa Monica
LAX Line: LA <--> LAX using Blue/Green line connector - no transfers needed. Another similar line could be created from Long Beach if the demand is high enough.

Both the Purple Line and the Expo Line are currently planned to terminate in Santa Monica. Why can't we extend them into LAX? Metro could build a massive station that would accomodate the Purple Line, Expo Line, Green Line and LAX Express. This could become Metro's busiest station.

[transitfan]

Originally Posted by wrcousert

How about something like this?

Blue Line: Long Beach <--> Pasadena, eventually Montclair.
Gold Line: Santa Monica <--> East LA, eventually Whittier and possibly La Habra

I think that is the plan.

Originally Posted by wrcousert

Aqua Line, or Expo: Downtown LA <--> Santa Monica

Don't know if they would keep that after the new Blue/Gold lines. Maybe (big maybe) rush hours only, part of the downtown connector includes a pocket track north of 7th Sr/Metro Center station, which would allow some trains to turn back without blocking the through trains. I think if anything, they would use that to turn back Blue Line trains, as Montclair-Long Beach would be a loooooooooooooonng route.

Originally Posted by wrcousert

LAX Line: LA <--> LAX using Blue/Green line connector - no transfers needed. Another similar line could be created from Long Beach if the demand is high enough.

Not the way the connector is configured now. To do this, a train from downtown L. A. would have to pull onto the pocket track south of Rosa Parks (Imperial/Wilmington) Station, change ends, cross over the northbound Blue Line track, then switch onto the Blue/Green connector, which goes into another pocket track east of Rosa Parks on the Green Line level. Then change ends again and pull onto the westbound Green Line track. All the while potentially delaying Blue and Green Line trains. For that to work, a new connector (flyover) would have to be built, and I don't see MTA having the $$$ to do that any time soon. It would be better to build a line on the Harbor Sub.

[HarryKerry]

Originally Posted by wrcousert

How about something like this?

Blue Line: Long Beach <--> Pasadena, eventually Montclair.
Gold Line: Santa Monica <--> East LA, eventually Whittier and possibly La Habra
Aqua Line, or Expo: Downtown LA <--> Santa Monica
LAX Line: LA <--> LAX using Blue/Green line connector - no transfers needed. Another similar line could be created from Long Beach if the demand is high enough.

Both the Purple Line and the Expo Line are currently planned to terminate in Santa Monica. Why can't we extend them into LAX? Metro could build a massive station that would accomodate the Purple Line, Expo Line, Green Line and LAX Express. This could become Metro's busiest station.

I agree that a real rail transit stop AT LAX would be great, but I think the LA World Airports should PAY for it. They have TONS of money, and some if it can be spent on such a project. They could even get waivers for use of additional funds if they show that the airport itself won't suffer from such a movement of funds. Metro just doesn't have the $$$, but LAWAP does.