U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Covid-19 Information Page
Go Back   City-Data Forum > U.S. Forums > California > Los Angeles
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 06-04-2012, 02:09 PM
 
7,824 posts, read 3,792,448 times
Reputation: 4320

Advertisements

I kind of thought about modern architecture and how it changed the way we build skyscrapers.

We all know L.A. has been given a flat top. Which was not good in an aesthetic point of view. Skyscaper boom in the wrong place at the wrong time time. If we knew quake resistance techniques back in the day, L.A. would have been a completely different looking place.

Anyhow. Seeing the new ritz and the upcomming Wilshire Grand Tower. They seem to bypass the code. Not be disobeying it but by building the skyscraper with a helipad but figuring out ways to give the building some definition on the top.

One way I was thinking was, how about the helipad extruding out to the side of the building?

Or think of these:



But with a helipad instead of a bridge in between. However it would be moved out as to avoid the chopper having to navigate between the buildings unless they are far enough apart. This would also help the pilot by not having to fly through a cloud of smoke if the building is on fire. I heard that was a problem with the Aeon Tower was on fire.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 06-04-2012, 02:40 PM
 
Location: Pasadena, CA
10,087 posts, read 13,553,714 times
Reputation: 3999
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chicano3000X View Post
I kind of thought about modern architecture and how it changed the way we build skyscrapers.

We all know L.A. has been given a flat top. Which was not good in an aesthetic point of view. Skyscaper boom in the wrong place at the wrong time time. If we knew quake resistance techniques back in the day, L.A. would have been a completely different looking place.

Anyhow. Seeing the new ritz and the upcomming Wilshire Grand Tower. They seem to bypass the code. Not be disobeying it but by building the skyscraper with a helipad but figuring out ways to give the building some definition on the top.

One way I was thinking was, how about the helipad extruding out to the side of the building?

Or think of these:



But with a helipad instead of a bridge in between. However it would be moved out as to avoid the chopper having to navigate between the buildings unless they are far enough apart. This would also help the pilot by not having to fly through a cloud of smoke if the building is on fire. I heard that was a problem with the Aeon Tower was on fire.
What about putting the helipads on those two cylindrical towers in front of the actual skyscraper?

The Ritz-Carlton building in South Park doesn't have a helipad at the top, I believe it is located lower down on the building.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-05-2012, 01:41 AM
 
93 posts, read 139,708 times
Reputation: 47
I think the idea is that people should be rescued form the top of the building, don't think lower down will do the trick
the way to "cheat" the helipad code is to do sort of the same thing done at the Burj Dubai where the helipad is towards the top of the building but it's hanging on the side, I think it is also retractable.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-05-2012, 10:51 AM
 
7,824 posts, read 3,792,448 times
Reputation: 4320
Quote:
Originally Posted by MeridianX View Post
I think the idea is that people should be rescued form the top of the building, don't think lower down will do the trick
the way to "cheat" the helipad code is to do sort of the same thing done at the Burj Dubai where the helipad is towards the top of the building but it's hanging on the side, I think it is also retractable.
True.

But why don't we look into what they do in places like Tokyo and Hong Kong? They don't use helipads, they are free to be creative. I heard they got a really advanced emergency elevator system.
Is L.A. the only city with that code implemented? Especially in the seismic region?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-05-2012, 10:58 AM
 
Location: SoCal, Idaho
3,162 posts, read 8,860,299 times
Reputation: 1637
Why do you care so much?

Seriously, in all the hundreds of highly educated people I've encountered in my life, including engineers, architects and designers, I have never ever heard someone bring this up a serious issue before.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-05-2012, 05:08 PM
 
Location: Southern California
890 posts, read 2,544,723 times
Reputation: 797
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1200RT View Post
Why do you care so much?

Seriously, in all the hundreds of highly educated people I've encountered in my life, including engineers, architects and designers, I have never ever heard someone bring this up a serious issue before.
Lol, but I have this motivation to make Lego towers with helipads now.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-07-2012, 10:20 PM
 
62 posts, read 126,621 times
Reputation: 56
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1200RT View Post
Why do you care so much?
Actually, I also care. (a little)

The city's fire code has resulted in a very boring downtown skyline. The lack of spires or other creative tops has made it very boring to look at, relative to other cities like NYC or Chicago.

It might be necessary, but it really is ugly.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-07-2012, 11:45 PM
 
7,824 posts, read 3,792,448 times
Reputation: 4320
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1200RT View Post
Why do you care so much?

Seriously, in all the hundreds of highly educated people I've encountered in my life, including engineers, architects and designers, I have never ever heard someone bring this up a serious issue before.
There's articles out there such as this:
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j...FyyG9ncgqCGNSQ


IMO, other than a few nice towers, most of them seem to be a product of "business first, no creativity".
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-07-2012, 11:46 PM
 
7,824 posts, read 3,792,448 times
Reputation: 4320
Another article:
You've Got Stub, LA: Should City Change Its Skyline? - Architecture - Curbed LA
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-07-2012, 11:53 PM
 
Location: RSM
5,113 posts, read 17,798,562 times
Reputation: 1893
Quote:
Originally Posted by RalphWiggum View Post
Actually, I also care. (a little)

The city's fire code has resulted in a very boring downtown skyline. The lack of spires or other creative tops has made it very boring to look at, relative to other cities like NYC or Chicago.

It might be necessary, but it really is ugly.
Who cares about man made crap when you've got a better natural beauty skyline anyways?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Options
X
Data:
Loading data...
Based on 2000-2016 data
Loading data...

123
Hide US histogram

Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > U.S. Forums > California > Los Angeles
View detailed profiles of:
Follow City-Data.com founder on our Forum or

All times are GMT -6.

© 2005-2020, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35 - Top