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Old 06-11-2012, 12:30 PM
 
Location: Pasadena, CA
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When LASD/CHP are combined, it can't be that low. Even if lower overall, they seem on the move more.
You should read the book LA Noir, it has an entire chapter devoted to how small the LAPD was (and still is).

I don't see CHP patrolling my neighborhood all that often either
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Old 06-11-2012, 01:11 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles, CA
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When LASD/CHP are combined, it can't be that low. Even if lower overall, they seem on the move more.
Yes, it can be and it is lower, even if you combine each agency.

The LAPD (approx. 10,000 officers) is not even as large as the Chicago Police Department....and we know LA has more people than Chicago.

LA County Sheriff is about 10,700 officers. They contract for 42 cities in the county (not the City of LA) plus unicorporated parts of LA County. LA County as 10 million residents.

Your experience (or your perception of your experience) was an anamoly. Not reflective of the reality on the ground.

I know someone who happened to visit Chicago in March when the daily high hit 65 degrees. That was a warm weekend in Chicago but it is not the norm.
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Old 06-11-2012, 02:15 PM
 
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I also stayed in North Hollywood near Van Nuys. Maybe that had something to do with it.

Is it true in LA they will stop you for almost anything and go heavy on traffic enforcement? Chicago was not like that.
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Old 06-11-2012, 02:21 PM
 
Location: SoCal, Idaho
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I also stayed in North Hollywood near Van Nuys. Maybe that had something to do with it.

Is it true in LA they will stop you for almost anything and go heavy on traffic enforcement? Chicago was not like that.
No, where did you hear that?

CA is actually very light on traffic enforcement, in relation to states like FL, and NYC Metro states.
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Old 06-11-2012, 03:06 PM
 
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No, where did you hear that?

CA is actually very light on traffic enforcement, in relation to states like FL, and NYC Metro states.
I've heard from a few people in CA you need to be extra careful there. Also, there is a law forum devoted to traffic citations, and it seems like the vast majority on that particular forum are from LA county.

I think there may be a different mentality on the west coast. I know in CA you can challenge certain traffic citations via trial by written declaration. I'm not from the midwest, but grew up there, and it seems controversial in the midwest to contest traffic citations.

If that were offered in the midwest, it would be seen as "free passes" for speeders. In Iowa for example, there is a 99.9% win rate on contested tickets.
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Old 06-11-2012, 03:14 PM
 
Location: SoCal, Idaho
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I assure you that there are traffic specific divisions of nearly every moderately sized law enforcement organization in the country.

Now, maybe there are a lot of citations issued in socal because there are a lot of law breakers?
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Old 06-11-2012, 05:50 PM
 
Location: Boulder Creek, CA
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If that were offered in the midwest, it would be seen as "free passes" for speeders. In Iowa for example, there is a 99.9% win rate on contested tickets.
Maybe they're not too concerned about muscle cars roaring through corn fields. Hauling ass through L.A., OTOH, can lead to very egregious results which LAPD would rather prevent.
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Old 06-11-2012, 06:00 PM
 
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When I lived in Valley Glen....after around 2004, I noticed that Van Nuys bl and Sepulveda BL in Van Nuys would be flooded with police cars on Friday and Saturday afternoons after about 3pm and until almost midnight. This was a standard tactic initiated when Bratton was Chief....saturate areas at times where crime is likely to be elevated. If you live in one of these "hot zones", then you would def notice police presence.

As to traffic....the only real issue is that CHP and some local agencies are super heavy handEd when it comes to modded vehicles. Everything else....let's just say that horrible CA drivers should be very happy that I'm not dictator. I'd take cars away from the majority of drivers.
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Old 06-11-2012, 08:59 PM
 
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Van Nuys probably needs it
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Old 06-11-2012, 11:47 PM
 
Location: Studio City, CA 91604
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I guess the presence of so many cops is what makes LA relatively safe for it's size.
Bingo!
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