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Old 06-15-2012, 09:03 PM
 
Location: NYC/D.C.
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As a New Yorker, I'll end this thread with the hurtful truth......

LA > New York

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Old 06-15-2012, 09:03 PM
 
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But why even ask that question?

As long as the core city is close to the beaches, and mountains, and hollywood, and everything else.
OF WHICH, you need a vehicle to get around everywhere, what if someone enjoys urban living? Don't get me wrong, LA county is nice but the actual city itself?

Who wants to drive from sprawl to sprawl , congestion after congestion, just to enjoy everything LA offers?? How is that even enjoyable??

Los Angeles might offer a lot, but it sure doesn't offer anything of a TRUE city when it comes to having a urban core ( i am not talking urban sprawl either)

Los Angeles downtown is pathetic for a city that is the 2nd largest in the United States! Let's be REAL here!
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Old 06-15-2012, 09:13 PM
 
Location: RSM
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OF WHICH, you need a vehicle to get around everywhere, what if someone enjoys urban living? Don't get me wrong, LA county is nice but the actual city itself?

Who wants to drive from sprawl to sprawl , congestion after congestion, just to enjoy everything LA offers?? How is that even enjoyable??

Los Angeles might offer a lot, but it sure doesn't offer anything of a TRUE city when it comes to having a urban core ( i am not talking urban sprawl either)

Los Angeles downtown is pathetic for a city that is the 2nd largest in the United States! Let's be REAL here!
Because Los Angeles downtown isn't the only urban area in the city or the region? LA is big. Huge square miles for a city. You can use the metro system to get to all points in the city. Apparently, you choose not to. Regardless, if you don't like DTLA, you can move to Hollywood. If you don't like Hollywood, you can move to Silverlake. If you don't like Silverlake, you can move to Koreatown. If you don't like the city of LA at all, you can move to Belmont Shore. If you don't like Belmont Shore, you can move to Downtown Long Beach. If you don't like Downtown Long Beach, you can move to Santa Monica. etc. All of those are urban and highly walkable areas with tons of things to do within a walkable vicinity while also have public transportation available.
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Old 06-15-2012, 09:20 PM
 
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Because Los Angeles downtown isn't the only urban area in the city or the region? LA is big. Huge square miles for a city. You can use the metro system to get to all points in the city. Apparently, you choose not to. Regardless, if you don't like DTLA, you can move to Hollywood. If you don't like Hollywood, you can move to Silverlake. If you don't like Silverlake, you can move to Koreatown. If you don't like the city of LA at all, you can move to Belmont Shore. If you don't like Belmont Shore, you can move to Downtown Long Beach. If you don't like Downtown Long Beach, you can move to Santa Monica. etc. All of those are urban and highly walkable areas with tons of things to do within a walkable vicinity while also have public transportation available.
Regardless of LA being "Big" it's core sucks really bad for being 2nd largest in the United States.

Santa Monica and Long Beach are great, but keep in mind they are NOT Los Angeles.

How does a city LA's size match up to Brickell in Miami or Downtown Chicago? or other large cities with a true urban core? The answer is, it doesn't.
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Old 06-15-2012, 09:24 PM
 
Location: California
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How does a city LA's size match up to Brickell in Miami or Downtown Chicago? or other large cities with a true urban core? The answer is, it doesn't.
Why should the cities "match up"? Apples and Oranges my friend...
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Old 06-15-2012, 09:27 PM
 
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No. LA is LA, not SF, not NYC, not Chicago. And who defined what a true city is?

Plus, I assume this means more gentrification, which means more kicking poor out of their homes and pushing them somewhere else so the areas you want to change can be nice and pretty.
oh please....with ur "kicking the poor out" boo freakin hoo. .

they're in prime real estate and dont even know it or appreciate it.
I'm sorry, but tough cookies, get out, make room for IMPROVEMENT and PROGRESS.....not stagnation and decay..
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Old 06-15-2012, 09:40 PM
 
Location: Pasadena, CA
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OF WHICH, you need a vehicle to get around everywhere, what if someone enjoys urban living? Don't get me wrong, LA county is nice but the actual city itself?
Who wants to drive from sprawl to sprawl , congestion after congestion, just to enjoy everything LA offers? How is that even enjoyable??

Los Angeles might offer a lot, but it sure doesn't offer anything of a TRUE city when it comes to having a urban core ( i am not talking urban sprawl either)

Los Angeles downtown is pathetic for a city that is the 2nd largest in the United States! Let's be REAL here!
There are census numbers that can more or less answer this question for you.

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Old 06-15-2012, 10:04 PM
 
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Los Angeles has two MAJOR problems that NYC doesn't:

1. Bar closing time at 2am
2. Metro trains stop running around midnight

These are colossal problems that can easily be fixed!
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Old 06-15-2012, 10:12 PM
 
Location: RSM
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Los Angeles has two MAJOR problems that NYC doesn't:

1. Bar closing time at 2am
2. Metro trains stop running around midnight

These are colossal problems that can easily be fixed!
Not really. Last call at 2am is a statewide law.
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Old 06-15-2012, 10:16 PM
 
Location: RSM
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Regardless of LA being "Big" it's core sucks really bad for being 2nd largest in the United States.

Santa Monica and Long Beach are great, but keep in mind they are NOT Los Angeles.

How does a city LA's size match up to Brickell in Miami or Downtown Chicago? or other large cities with a true urban core? The answer is, it doesn't.
You're defining DTLA as its core. I just explained, there are at least a half dozen "urban cores" of LA city, each with their own amenities and identities. You don't need highrises to be an urban core. Urban has nothing to do with high rises. It has to do with population density, and LA is very dense regardless of the fact that it isn't built towards the sky everywhere.
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