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Old 06-19-2012, 04:13 AM
 
Location: West Los Angeles
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Why doesn't the Wrigley family, or whomever owns most of that island these days, allow it to be developed more so? With the overcrowding of Los Angeles, I wish some of Southern CA would grow over into Avalon. We have enough nature preserves in this country (just look at any Jeppeson chart), and I think it's time there was a little more on that island besides a few houses, a non-casino casino, and buffalo herds.
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Old 06-19-2012, 11:07 PM
 
Location: Boulder Creek, CA
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Why doesn't the Wrigley family, or whomever owns most of that island these days, allow it to be developed more so? With the overcrowding of Los Angeles, I wish some of Southern CA would grow over into Avalon. We have enough nature preserves in this country (just look at any Jeppeson chart), and I think it's time there was a little more on that island besides a few houses, a non-casino casino, and buffalo herds.
The humans control and abuse enough land in this country. Let the non-human species have theirs.
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Old 06-20-2012, 03:20 AM
 
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The humans control and abuse enough land in this country. Let the non-human species have theirs.
So even though 99% of this continent is not inhabited by humans, we need to keep an island within view of Los Angeles relatively uninhabited?
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Old 06-20-2012, 11:56 AM
 
Location: Kūkiʻo, HI & Manhattan Beach, CA
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So even though 99% of this continent is not inhabited by humans, we need to keep an island within view of Los Angeles relatively uninhabited?
Los Angeles is not that overcrowded and Catalina's carrying capacity is constrained by factors such as its lack of fresh water.
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Old 06-20-2012, 11:59 AM
 
Location: Columbia, California
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It is a rare day to ever see mainland. The coastal layer usually never allowed a view. Funny as I can often see the island from the beach.
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Old 06-20-2012, 01:03 PM
 
Location: Boulder Creek, CA
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So even though 99% of this continent is not inhabited by humans, we need to keep an island within view of Los Angeles relatively uninhabited?
You can try and stake your claim out there, but you'll probably get run over by buffalo. Same with the aggro golfcart-driving locals. Fearsome bunch, especially after happy hour.

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Old 06-21-2012, 07:13 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles, CA
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Why doesn't the Wrigley family, or whomever owns most of that island these days, allow it to be developed more so? With the overcrowding of Los Angeles, I wish some of Southern CA would grow over into Avalon. We have enough nature preserves in this country (just look at any Jeppeson chart), and I think it's time there was a little more on that island besides a few houses, a non-casino casino, and buffalo herds.
Develop Catalina Island? That is a very bad idea.....and gratefully one that will never happen. The Galapagos islands should be bulldozed and populated too.

The Wrigley family put the vast majority of Catalina island into a private non-profit conservation fund which perserves the island's natural habitat. The Catalina Island Conservancy is privately owned but there is a public easement granted to LA County which allows the public on the hiking paths and camp sites that dot the island.
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Old 06-21-2012, 10:53 PM
 
Location: Boulder Creek, CA
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Develop Catalina Island? That is a very bad idea.....and gratefully one that will never happen. The Galapagos islands should be bulldozed and populated too.

The Wrigley family put the vast majority of Catalina island into a private non-profit conservation fund which perserves the island's natural habitat. The Catalina Island Conservancy is privately owned but there is a public easement granted to LA County which allows the public on the hiking paths and camp sites that dot the island.
Sure it doesn't need a Walmart and a few dozen Starbuck's? How about an indian casino/resort?
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Old 06-22-2012, 01:19 AM
 
Location: West Los Angeles
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The Wrigley family put the vast majority of Catalina island into a private non-profit conservation fund which perserves the island's natural habitat.
How many "natural habitats" do we need? Do you know how many islands are off the coast of California?

BTW, how do you define "natural habitat"? I consider humans to be natural, so why can't Catalina Island be more of a natural habitat for humans by allowing more human homes to be built?
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Old 06-22-2012, 01:22 AM
 
Location: West Los Angeles
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Sure it doesn't need a Walmart and a few dozen Starbuck's? How about an indian casino/resort?
How about we allow no human life at all on Catalina Island, so we don't have impure humans contaminating the precious landscape. Or for that matter, let's eliminate humans from this planet altogether...

Hyperbole is a two way street.
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