Is it possible for DTLA pop to reach 100k? (Los Angeles: apartment, city hall)

[HarryKerryJr]

I know we discussing RESIDENTS, but I do know that back in the 1980's, downtown population during the working hours was over 700,000. Does anyone know what the working week daytime population of downtown LA is today? It seems LESS than the 80's.

[MB8abovetherim]

Originally Posted by HarryKerryJr

I know we discussing RESIDENTS, but I do know that back in the 1980's, downtown population during the working hours was over 700,000. Does anyone know what the working week daytime population of downtown LA is today? It seems LESS than the 80's.

WOW. My guess these days that it would be around 250-400k but that's just a guess. I would like to know that it actually is myself.

[munchitup]

Originally Posted by MB8abovetherim

WOW. My guess these days that it would be around 250-400k but that's just a guess. I would like to know that it actually is myself.

207k

Downtown Profile - Mapping L.A. - Los Angeles Times

[MB8abovetherim]

Cool link

[goofcat]

The limiting factor on people moving to DTLA is jobs. LA times had a story lately listing the percentage of jobs by location. Downtown had only as much jobs as many of the suburbs, something around 10%. In that sense, it is just another suburb.

LA is not like other big cities such as Chicago or NY where most of the jobs are downtown. In cities where most of the employment is in a centralized location, people well move to where the jobs are, and shops follow.

The biggest flaw of the rejuvenation of downtown LA plan is jobs. For most So Cal folks, we only go downtown if we have to. Thus, most only visit once or twice a year. I know many folks who have not been down there in years. The reason being, they work, shop, play, live and worship where they live, which is the suburbs.

In order for DTLA to become the hip-happening place that some politicians fantasize about. Much more jobs will need to be created. It is a false belief that just by converting old buildings into flats, people will flock to downtown. What people are missing is that many if not most of the new converted residential buildings, used to be industrial buildings where people worked! Turing them into housing will not revive downtown. Getting the manufacturing and professional jobs back is what will drive people to move back to downtown.

[munchitup]

Originally Posted by goofcat

Getting the manufacturing and professional jobs back is what will drive people to move back to downtown.

Manufacturing? No. No one could afford that neighborhood with a manufacturing job budget.

It would be interesting to see how many people that live in DTLA work there.

Another thing to keep in mind is that DTLA is the axis of LA's transportation system - you can easily live in DTLA and work in a wide variety of locations.

[buzzkillb]

I don't see it happening anymore. We were in one of the lofts and rent was raised through the roof. Going from $2150 to $2500 for $845 sq. ft. 12 month lease or $2800 for month to month lease. The security told us they hadn't seen so many people leave in the couple months before we left. They also did a triple take on what our rent would have been raised to and said we were smart for looking to buy a house and save money. It felt like our floor was becoming vacant, so that turned out to be true. I had also heard others talking in the elevators about other complexes doing the same thing. This is for rent.

Now you add the crazy prices for condos where most HOA's are in the $800+/month for the little 900 sq. ft. studios, and I don't know what type of person would want to live down there. Do people earning that kind of money want to live like that when there are plenty of decent places to have a backyard for much cheaper?

After living down there I just don't think its going to happen yet. City Target and Ralphs are too big pluses though.

[wordlife]

Originally Posted by HarryKerryJr

I know we discussing RESIDENTS, but I do know that back in the 1980's, downtown population during the working hours was over 700,000. Does anyone know what the working week daytime population of downtown LA is today? It seems LESS than the 80's.

That's crazy, I can't picture that many people through those blocks during the daytime. What type of jobs were located in DTLA back in the 1980s?

[Elle Oh Elle]

Originally Posted by wordlife

That's crazy, I can't picture that many people through those blocks during the daytime. What type of jobs were located in DTLA back in the 1980s?

I imagine this was part of it:

Spring Street Financial District - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Originally Posted by goofcat

LA is not like other big cities such as Chicago or NY where most of the jobs are downtown. In cities where most of the employment is in a centralized location, people well move to where the jobs are, and shops follow.

The biggest flaw of the rejuvenation of downtown LA plan is jobs. For most So Cal folks, we only go downtown if we have to. Thus, most only visit once or twice a year. I know many folks who have not been down there in years. The reason being, they work, shop, play, live and worship where they live, which is the suburbs.

In order for DTLA to become the hip-happening place that some politicians fantasize about. Much more jobs will need to be created. It is a false belief that just by converting old buildings into flats, people will flock to downtown. What people are missing is that many if not most of the new converted residential buildings, used to be industrial buildings where people worked! Turing them into housing will not revive downtown. Getting the manufacturing and professional jobs back is what will drive people to move back to downtown.

That's the annoying part. You also miss out on the "real" city life and some claim they like the suburbs better than the city life. Nonetheless, DT still has more diversity, more public transit, and more everything.

I don't think they can get those jobs back anymore. They've all been outsourced. What little left of it is more in West LA now.

[SalParadise]

Originally Posted by munchitup

207k

Downtown Profile - Mapping L.A. - Los Angeles Times

I've seen estimates which put downtown LA's daytime population (i.e., the total number of employees in downtown) at 400,000 to 500,000. Like this study here which was done in 2005 and put the number at 418,000. More or less the same borders as the link you posted.

http://www.downtownla.com/pdfs/econ_...rvey022007.pdf