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Old 01-01-2013, 09:07 PM
 
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So after watching this video I got the impression that there will be little TOD opportunities atleast before getting to Santa Monica, would like to know what you guys think.

Los Angeles Metro Expo Line - Phase II Tour, Part 1 - YouTube
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Old 01-01-2013, 09:33 PM
 
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So after watching this video I got the impression that there will be little TOD opportunities atleast before getting to Santa Monica, would like to know what you guys think.

Los Angeles Metro Expo Line - Phase II Tour, Part 1 - YouTube
There's a proposal being considered for a 17 story, 538 unit complex with some 270,000 square feet of retail at Pico & Sepulveda, next to the Expo Line. Lots of controversy, as you might imagine.

A lot of the TOD potential along Phase 2 of the Expo Line is in Santa Monica, which the video didn't show.

Also, the video is cool in simulating the experience of riding along the line, but it's also a very narrow view of the corridor. I'm pretty sure there are several points along the line where there are good sized, developable lots a little bit out of this video's frame.
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Old 01-02-2013, 12:59 PM
 
Location: Pasadena, CA
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My thoughts -
Where the ROW is paved over between Palms and Motor Ave, to the left is a rent-a-storage facility. Wouldn't surprise me if that land ended up being too valuable to be wasted on something like that and eventually the owner sells it off to be developed into something a little more useful for its proximity to the rail line. You can't tell from the video but across the street from the storage facility is Palms, one of the densest neighborhoods on the Westside. Not a lot of opportunity to build TOD but tons of opportunity to attract riders.
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Old 01-03-2013, 06:07 AM
 
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That is a really OLD video that has been around and known by transit advocates for quite a while. But I'm glad you posted it for those who don't know.
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Old 02-07-2013, 06:15 PM
 
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I live in San Francisco and am fascinated by new transit development.

This may be a transformational change for Los Angeles. You can work in Santa Monica or downtown LA and be along the Expo line. New townhomes, condos, and apartments will be expected along this Expo line corridor. I don't see the controversy though of new housing. Isn't there a vocal majority complaining about high housing costs?
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Old 02-07-2013, 06:57 PM
 
Location: Pasadena, CA
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I live in San Francisco and am fascinated by new transit development.

This may be a transformational change for Los Angeles. You can work in Santa Monica or downtown LA and be along the Expo line. New townhomes, condos, and apartments will be expected along this Expo line corridor. I don't see the controversy though of new housing. Isn't there a vocal majority complaining about high housing costs?
It won't be hard to build there, the line goes through mostly lower-income neighborhoods. This issue is who will be the first to jump in and build first through neighborhoods like West Adams and Jefferson Park.
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Old 02-09-2013, 12:51 AM
 
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Just finished my second trip in a month to L.A. to ride the rails and be gleefully car-less while enjoying your city. Had some time left yesterday, only line I hadn't ridden was the Expo Line, and off I went!

When it said Culver City, I was as disappointed as when I took the Green Line to Redondo Beach, thinking I'd be deposited at the beach!

Well, I wasn't thinking! Those beach residents I'm sure had a say in where the line would end, same in Culver City! I expected to be deposited in the central part of CC and? What a surprise or shock it was! Got off, walked within a 3 block radius of the last stop, did a little shopping at Goodwill, but holey-moley! Nothing there!

But I see the expansion work going on to the west of the last stop, so that's encouraging!

Now if they can only do some build-ups at the Expo Line stops! Let's hope there isn't a slew of Nimby's that way to shout down any midrise or highrise construction!
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Old 02-09-2013, 01:10 AM
 
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There are a lot of restaurants near the Culver City Station... and some fancy furniture stores too (with furniture for you to carry onto the train, of course).
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Old 02-09-2013, 11:45 AM
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Just finished my second trip in a month to L.A. to ride the rails and be gleefully car-less while enjoying your city. Had some time left yesterday, only line I hadn't ridden was the Expo Line, and off I went!

When it said Culver City, I was as disappointed as when I took the Green Line to Redondo Beach, thinking I'd be deposited at the beach!

Well, I wasn't thinking! Those beach residents I'm sure had a say in where the line would end, same in Culver City! I expected to be deposited in the central part of CC and? What a surprise or shock it was! Got off, walked within a 3 block radius of the last stop, did a little shopping at Goodwill, but holey-moley! Nothing there!

But I see the expansion work going on to the west of the last stop, so that's encouraging!

Now if they can only do some build-ups at the Expo Line stops! Let's hope there isn't a slew of Nimby's that way to shout down any midrise or highrise construction!
Seems like you are disappointed because you didn't do more research! I've heard there is a lot by the Culver City stop, but it sounds like you didn't look hard enough.

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Old 02-09-2013, 08:32 PM
 
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There's also a lack of wayfinding signage from Culver City station into downtown Culver City, which is really a lovely little place. It's an easy walk if you know where you're going, but Metro and the city should also guide newbies. I doubt that tourist-friendly Santa Monica will make the same mistake.

Yes, the expansion of the rapid transit network is already transformational for Los Angeles, and will be more so as it proceeds. For transit supporters, it's one of the most interesting and exciting cities in the country.
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