Former cop rampaging LA (all Dorner posts go here) (retired, office)

[loloroj]

Originally Posted by JohnG72

Tinfoil hats back in fashion, eh?

Only for those that need them. Your head's too small to have anything to worry about there Sparky....

[JohnG72]

Originally Posted by loloroj

Only for those that need them. Your head's too small to have anything to worry about there Sparky....

I'm very well aware of the internal ongoings within LAPD and I'd bet $1000 that I know more about LAPD corruption in general, and on the Rampart scandal in particular than you do. In fact, I still find it hillarious when I inform people of all the corruption that has gone on with LAPD in the past 15 years or so and they are amazed(like theyve never heard of cops killing people to steal drugs(Ruben Palomares, William Ferguson), raping(Joseph Robinson, etc).

Thats not the issue here...in this direct incident and in fact has zero to do with the current incident. What does have merit and value is the direct words of Christopher Dorner....stuff like about how other officers sang Nazi songs, cops dropping the N word, all the accusations against officers of various ethnic backgrounds and sexual orientations.....

That stuff does not happen in real life. Everyone knows to avoid it. LAPD is majority female or minority...I believe at this point caucasian males are less than 1/3 of the officers in the department. Women, latino, black, and asian officers hold positions all the way up to assistant chief, and LAPD has had two black chiefs. Not that isolated incidents don't occur, but the way Dorner presents it is entirely laughable.

What it does reflect is that Christopher Dorner is an individual in whom mental illness has manifested in an unfortunate way. I'm inclined to believe it may be a PTSD issue, but really can't be sure at this point.

[tablemtn]

What it does reflect is that Christopher Dorner is an individual in whom mental illness has manifested in an unfortunate way.

It's a bit ironic, though, that one of Dorner's claims in his manifesto is:

Citizens/non-combatants, do not render medical aid to downed officers/enemy combatants. They would not do the same for you. They will let you bleed out just so they can brag to other officers that they had a 187 caper the other day and can’t wait to accrue the overtime in future court subpoenas. As they always say, “that’s the paramedics job…not mine”

Then that very night, officers shot two innocent newspaper delivery women from behind as they sat in a truck that didn't even match the make or model of the suspect's vehicle, and shot at (but fortunately missed) a third man in another area. The LA Times has a photo of the unfortunate truck:

Women delivering newspapers in Torrance shot in manhunt for ex-cop

Remember that old saying - he might be crazy, but he's no loon? Hmmm...

[JohnG72]

Originally Posted by tablemtn

It's a bit ironic, though, that one of Dorner's claims in his manifesto is:



Then that very night, officers shot two innocent newspaper delivery women from behind as they sat in a truck that didn't even match the make or model of the suspect's vehicle, and shot at (but fortunately missed) a third man in another area. The LA Times has a photo of the unfortunate truck:

Women delivering newspapers in Torrance shot in manhunt for ex-cop

Remember that old saying - he might be crazy, but he's no loon? Hmmm...

You really can't judge the situation without knowing all the facts.

[loloroj]

Originally Posted by JohnG72

I'm very well aware of the internal ongoings within LAPD and I'd bet $1000 that I know more about LAPD corruption in general, and on the Rampart scandal in particular than you do. In fact, I still find it hillarious when I inform people of all the corruption that has gone on with LAPD in the past 15 years or so and they are amazed(like theyve never heard of cops killing people to steal drugs(Ruben Palomares, William Ferguson), raping(Joseph Robinson, etc).

Thats not the issue here...in this direct incident and in fact has zero to do with the current incident. What does have merit and value is the direct words of Christopher Dorner....stuff like about how other officers sang Nazi songs, cops dropping the N word, all the accusations against officers of various ethnic backgrounds and sexual orientations.....

That stuff does not happen in real life. Everyone knows to avoid it. LAPD is majority female or minority...I believe at this point caucasian males are less than 1/3 of the officers in the department. Women, latino, black, and asian officers hold positions all the way up to assistant chief, and LAPD has had two black chiefs. Not that isolated incidents don't occur, but the way Dorner presents it is entirely laughable.

What it does reflect is that Christopher Dorner is an individual in whom mental illness has manifested in an unfortunate way. I'm inclined to believe it may be a PTSD issue, but really can't be sure at this point.

Uh, no, you don't have a clue of what it is this man is talking about because the original writings have been edited, or at least that is what we've been told. And none of what you posted has to do with what has taken place with LAPD over the decades. You have no clue as to who Dorner is or what his problems may be, yours is pure speculation. Please don't try "I know more about LEO culture than you" BS. You have no idea of who I am nor my family.

Again, folks disregard anything else, get a context of what may be going on by looking at the overall history of the outfit, beginning with Rampart and go on from there. A cop killing a cop isn't simply a PTSD episode. Something else is going on, despite what a troll like this guy may claim. Just do your own investigation....

[drshang]

Originally Posted by JohnG72

You really can't judge the situation without knowing all the facts.

One thing seems fairly certain: this act will cost taxpayers a lot of money.

[Vary]

Originally Posted by genjy

How silly of me. Of course the dude will be shot to death by the police. I presumed that law enforcement officers were out enforcing the laws and not acting as executioners.

The two-dozen bullet holes on the newspaper truck say it all. That dude is already guilty and will be executed without due process.

The dude already murdered the daughter and future SIL of one of the officers mentioned in the manifesto, and promised to murder the children of all the others. He's killed one police officer and injured others. He's already proven he's not looking to negotiate.

[JohnG72]

Originally Posted by loloroj

Uh, no, you don't have a clue of what it is this man is talking about because the original writings have been edited, or at least that is what we've been told. And none of what you posted has to do with what has taken place with LAPD over the decades. You have no clue as to who Dorner is or what his problems may be, yours is pure speculation. Please don't try "I know more about LEO culture than you" BS. You have no idea of who I am nor my family.

Again, folks disregard anything else, get a context of what may be going on by looking at the overall history of the outfit, beginning with Rampart and go on from there. A cop killing a cop isn't simply a PTSD episode. Something else is going on, despite what a troll like this guy may claim. Just do your own investigation....

1.) I know that Christopher Dorner killed a cop unrelated to anything he was previously involved in. I know he also killed two totally innocent people(the two he killed in Irvine on Sunday

2.) I know his complete uncensored manifesto was posted earlier in this thread and I know I read it in entirety.

3.) I know you post conspiracy theories as fact and justify it with amazingly logical and fact based statements such as: "A cop killing a cop isn't simply a PTSD episode".

4.) I also know you also justify your theories with amazing strong evidence such as "Just do your own investigation".

[CALGUY]

My take on all this?
I don't believe they will find him until spring, after the snow melts.
Obviously he isn't going to let law enforcement have the pleasure of killing him because of his hatred for LAPD.
He(if he hasn't already), will take his own life with a bullet to the head.
He won't allow the police to shoot him because doing that, they win.
He will be found in the spring after the snow melts.
Bob.

[JTGJR]

Calguy, I disagree. I think he would be more than happy if law enforcement took him out, which they will. Wearing my couch psychologist hat, he would figure that further proves his conspiracy mindset. He wants to make a statement. Let's hope that his statement is focused on his alleged target audience and not the general public. With that said, I read the complete manifesto and I don't think it sounds like the ramblings of a mad man. I absolutely abhor what he is doing. And I think his writings WILL drive the media, for good or bad, to dig deeper into the incidents that he rants about. I just hope they take him out sooner than later. But I don't think he'll be going to court over this, in any event.