Former cop rampaging LA (all Dorner posts go here) (Riverside: fit in, house)

[Datafeed]

Originally Posted by JohnG72

You have no doubt huh? None whatsoever? After a Bratton and consent decree era board of rights hearing, and after a subsequent appeal was denied by the courts, you have SRO doubts this lunatic is telling the truth?

Really.

Dude, it's all about proof not facts.

If five of my friends corner you and call you names and punch you in your gut, we can go to the cops and say that you have been stalking me to carry out gay fantasies and attempted to assault and rob me.

If my friends seem credible--or we act like we are random acquaintances--you are SOL....cops lie all the time and their word is accepted at face value.

Are you saying that the "system" would take a rookie's word over a "decorated" training officer 10 year vet of the force? LOL.

You are very naive.

[jm1982]

LAPD couldn't even bother to go to the back of my house when it was broken into after my neighbors called.

You think they will catch this guy...?

When I inquired about my case I was treated like a criminal by LAPD

[ccm123]

Scary, I hope he gets caught.

[yamota]

a wise man once said that the beginning of the decline of human society is when people start idolizing criminals and start looking upon law enforcement officers as the criminals

[415_s2k]

Well, if this thread has illustrated anything, it's that the LAPD has a legitimately negative legacy and opinion amongst a large number of its citizens...

I do, indeed, believe some of his allegations - such as his training officer kicking the snot out of a mentally-handicapped homeless man - to be absolutely believable. The LAPD's department-wide MO is picking on people who won't or can't fight back instead of actually going after violent criminals; they're a bunch of cowards. I have absolutely no doubt in the least that during his training, he was driven around as his training officer beat up people who weren't resisting arrest and targeted people arbitrarily.

Any truth to Dorner's allegations, any legitimate grievances he has or may have had, are dwarfed by other realities: the guy laments children being shot by criminals, and then he goes and shoots up the (adult) child of an officer who wronged him. He says that he only has a grievance with the LAPD and will only open fire on members of the LAPD unless a member of another department tries to stop him, and then he ambushes a Riverside PD cruiser. The guy is insane, he's murderous, and he's willing to break his own personally laid-out ethos in his quest for vengeance. He references the atrocities at Sandy Hook, or the Aurora theatre shootings, but doesn't realize that he is Adam Lanza, he is James Holmes.

If he was only targeting LAPD officers, he'd still be insane, but at least he'd be going after the people he has a grievance towards. As it stands, he's up 3 people who were totally unrelated to his situation.

[415_s2k]

Originally Posted by yamota

a wise man once said that the beginning of the decline of human society is when people start idolizing criminals and start looking upon law enforcement officers as the criminals

Yeah, well, that wiseguy never lived in Los Angeles.

[DontH8Me]

Dorner is shining the light on his former fellow cockroaches. They are effectively proving his case with their over-the-top behavior in Torrance and Redondo Beach yesterday morning.

He made the mistake of showing integrity by reporting this 'Chupacabra' character, and he was rewarded accordingly. He crossed the 'blue line'. The LAPD is nothing more than a state-run gang of violent thugs drunk on their authority. If one in their ranks dares to speak out against another, they must squash him, discredit him, conspire against him to make sure no one else among them gets any ideas about showing honesty and integrity.

I do not excuse this violent behavior - that couple in Irvine did not deserve their fate. But I have no problem understanding the guy's motives. Had the LAPD not done their despicable retribution on this whistleblower, I'm pretty sure none of this would ever have happened.

[jm1982]

He's got them right where he wants them....MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!


This is a guy that the LAPD and Military HIRED.... You would be foolish to think there are not other Dorners among the 10,000 officers in LAPD...

Not saying they shouldn't look for this guy....but who many OTHER criminals are getting away with serious crimes because "all the officers are busy looking for Dorner"

[harhar]

Originally Posted by 415_s2k

Well, if this thread has illustrated anything, it's that the LAPD has a legitimately negative legacy and opinion amongst a large number of its citizens...

I do, indeed, believe some of his allegations - such as his training officer kicking the snot out of a mentally-handicapped homeless man - to be absolutely believable. The LAPD's department-wide MO is picking on people who won't or can't fight back instead of actually going after violent criminals; they're a bunch of cowards. I have absolutely no doubt in the least that during his training, he was driven around as his training officer beat up people who weren't resisting arrest and targeted people arbitrarily.

Any truth to Dorner's allegations, any legitimate grievances he has or may have had, are dwarfed by other realities: the guy laments children being shot by criminals, and then he goes and shoots up the (adult) child of an officer who wronged him. He says that he only has a grievance with the LAPD and will only open fire on members of the LAPD unless a member of another department tries to stop him, and then he ambushes a Riverside PD cruiser. The guy is insane, he's murderous, and he's willing to break his own personally laid-out ethos in his quest for vengeance. He references the atrocities at Sandy Hook, or the Aurora theatre shootings, but doesn't realize that he is Adam Lanza, he is James Holmes.

If he was only targeting LAPD officers, he'd still be insane, but at least he'd be going after the people he has a grievance towards. As it stands, he's up 3 people who were totally unrelated to his situation.

This exactly.

People saying that this man or his writings are lucid and that he's making sense, must not read that much.

This guy is crazy. His writings, true or not, and anyone who thinks LEOs are 100% upstanding individuals are just blind.

This was a person who never had a voice, didn't know how to use it. He was trained in how to use deadly force and that became his voice.

Police corruption and this guy are two separate entities. I needed him to uncover these wrongdoings against him, as much as I needed someone to tell me the sky is blue. Him killing people methodically and the capability to kill arbitrarily, makes him very dangerous and renders any arguments he may have had, null and void.

He is not a "Robin Hood" type character.

[jm1982]

Any headline with the word Manifesto sells copies at the newstand....or EYES on the internet (modern day version)