Are there jobs for Low Skilled Lower Middle Class White People in Los Angeles? (Long Beach: apartment, home)

[PDF]

Originally Posted by munchitup

It really depends on the store. Subway, McDonald's, basically huge chains are usually majority non-white while more upscale places like say, Juicy Burger or Papaya King (which went out of business, no shocker) were mostly younger college-type people and skew more towards white people.

True, I'm just saying that it's going to be more white people than non-white most of the time. Also you have In-N-Out, which likes to hire young white people.

But I think the people working at In-N-Out, Starbucks, etc. are a far different crowd than those doing physical labor, even if they aren't white.

[Old Tired Man]

At the Factory in York PA there is basically all American born and English as a first language workforce. But if my friends move to Southern CA their coworkers would not fit with them and likely there would be a bias on the part of the hiring managers to hire immigrants so they would fit in together better. It would be a completely different social culture in a factory in Southern CA than in York PA. My friends don't understand that. (They are always talking about the guys at the factory and they are a club but they look and act like clones. There is little social, cultural or ethnic diversity at the York PA Factory.

Originally Posted by munchitup

No they won't be able to afford a decent home at 35k in Southern California (or pretty much any desirable big city) but that has nothing to do with the racial dynamic of the question, which seems like a weird element to me. I guess yeah most of these workers below are Hispanic in LA, but most people in LA are Hispanic, so...

• Barber - My barber's Mexican but he owns the shop...

• Assembly Line Worker - no idea, probably mostly Hispanic or Asian. The company I work for has a warehouse in Richmond, CA (similar demographics to South LA) and it was a pretty healthy mix of white, southeast Asian and Hispanic. I do think the predominate language was Tagalog or something but all races seemed to get along very well and have rapport.

• Grocery Store Cashier - Most of the TJ's cashiers are white, Ralph's cashiers a good mix - most grocery stores seem to follow this trend

• Data Entry Clerk - have no idea but my wife works with lien claimants which is about the same level - they are sorts of races, maybe majority Hispanic but again that is LA's demographic

• Maintenance Man at apartment complex - My maintenance man is Filipino, speaks English well and Spanish is probably his first language.

They could do them but are going to have to rent an apartment in the Valley. That's the way it goes in a big city

[CA4Now]

Originally Posted by PDF

I think the people working at In-N-Out, Starbucks, etc. are a far different crowd than those doing physical labor...

Yep. Starbucks is a selective company and the barista positions are high pressure. Most of those employees have college degrees and can't find a job in their field right now. In 'n Out is looking for a very specific type of employee that fits in with the image they like to project.

[disgruntled la native]

You pretty much got it right, Old Tired Man. Your friends are totally unrealistic. Not only are most entry level low skilled jobs dominated and taken by Hispanic workers (who tend to work harder than anyone else, more hours and less pay so they get first pick), the cost of living in Santa Monica is insanely high. Let's not forget santa monica is one of the priciest parts in the LA metro area. They would be better off living in a small beach town in San Luis Obispo county.

[Old Tired Man]

Originally Posted by disgruntled la native

You pretty much got it right, Old Tired Man. Your friends are totally unrealistic. Not only are most entry level low skilled jobs dominated and taken by Hispanic workers (who tend to work harder than anyone else, more hours and less pay so they get first pick), the cost of living in Santa Monica is insanely high. Let's not forget santa monica is one of the priciest parts in the LA metro area. They would be better off living in a small beach town in San Luis Obispo county.

Yes somewhere in Central California would be better but they would not be able to live by the beach, party with all the blonds and hang out with the stars at Hollywood Clubs if they did not live right in the middle of LA. (Yes, they really said that!)

[jm1982]

It's amazing how different the perception of L.A is versus the reality that most people find themselves in. I would probably say for unskilled jobs retail, servers, working for the studios in some unskilled position maybe?

I don't think you will find a single white person in L.A that actually works in a factory for minimum wage. I could be wrong though. If they do they aren't going to be living on the beach in Santa Monica.

In N Out does seem to hire a particular type of person. I also noticed that about Disneyland . You can tell they are pretty selective , and it seems many of the guys working at Disneyland are gay...anybody else notice this?

[PDF]

Originally Posted by jm1982

It's amazing how different the perception of L.A is versus the reality that most people find themselves in. I would probably say for unskilled jobs retail, servers, working for the studios in some unskilled position maybe?

I don't think you will find a single white person in L.A that actually works in a factory for minimum wage. I could be wrong though. If they do they aren't going to be living on the beach in Santa Monica.

In N Out does seem to hire a particular type of person. I also noticed that about Disneyland . You can tell they are pretty selective , and it seems many of the guys working at Disneyland are gay...anybody else notice this?

I do think people need to refine their expectations. It's only a matter of days until I move to LA to "chase the Hollywood dream", but I am realistic about it and have a plan.

I've only worked a couple jobs (and all service work) but I have a well-written resume and two Fortune 500 companies on there. I'm confident I can find a full-time job doing what I do now.

However some people just come out to LA without much of a plan and are willing to take any job.

[Old Tired Man]

You dont' see many people like this in Southern CA, but cross the country and you see them everywhere in regular towns.

http://www.dba-oracle.com/images/red_neck_car.jpg

[jm1982]

Yeah life in L.A (for most people) isn't like on the show Entourage.

[winkosmosis]

Originally Posted by Old Tired Man

You dont' see many people like this in Southern CA, but cross the country and you see them everywhere in regular towns.

http://www.dba-oracle.com/images/red_neck_car.jpg

Isn't that what people in Bakersfield look like?