I hate NYC will I love LA (Los Angeles, West Hollywood: home, neighborhoods)

[thebordella]

Very true. I think that people coming to LA from many other US cities don't appreciate this. We pay a little under that price and live in a well-regarded westside area. But instead of a studio in Manhattan, it's a 2bd/2ba+office+garage+private outdoor space with lush landscaping. I certainly wouldn't call LA housing "cheap" but in comparison to NYC, there is still a big difference in what you get for the dollar.

Originally Posted by NyWriterdude

A studio in a nice part of Manhattan costs 3k. Rents in LA, even the Westside, are comparatively cheap compared to Manhattan rents. LA is nowhere near as crowded as New York, and as far traffic goes, for those who have driven here or taken rides in cars, yes we have traffic problems too.

Los Angeles has single detached dwelling houses. Pretty common in LA, a lot less common in NYC (non existent in Manhattan, common in Queens, parts of Brooklyn much of Staten Island, and in the North Bronx). The population density is a lot less than New York.

[thebordella]

This goes back to personal lifestyle preference. I enjoy driving around LA and exploring new areas. I'd rather be chugging along through a new and interesting neighborhood than buried underground on a hot smelly subway. And I've been on plenty of hot smelly subway rides to know.

But again, this thread is about coming to LA from NYC. I don't buy the point of view that most NYC residents are hitting the corners of every borough on the magical tube system every weekend. Many NYC residents like a compact life and the setup of the city suits that. That's great - someone who needs that type of compact "everything I need is within 15 blocks" would be very frustrated in LA. But some people want to roam and enjoy a wider sphere, and if you're that type of person living in NYC it can feel very claustrophobic. For this type of person, LA can be a better fit. Just because driving and traffic can sometimes be a hassle, so what -- schlepping around NYC can be a hassle too. There are hassles to living in any large city, kind of comes with the territory if you want the advantages of a population in the millions.

Originally Posted by Kapuchin Monk

The problem with LA, as I see it is all the interesting places are spread out far too much, public transport is not up to par and driving is even more miserable.

[jen5276]

The whole "four seasons" argument makes me laugh...I hear that from so many NYers who cannot imagine living somewhere else..I feel bad for people who are stuck here for the rest of their lives..

Bottom line is, here in NYC, it basically feels like two seasons, cold, grey and rainy, and hot, humid and disgusting. Right now, for instance, it's so unbearable hot and humid that most people don't even want to go outside. Took a five block walk yesterday and by the time I got home, I was soaking wet and felt like the life had been sucked out of me, had to jump right in the shower. Seriously disgusting.

And it will be like this until late September when it then starts to rain continuously and we might even be lucky enough to get another hurricane! (God forbid, Sandy was truly a scary experience), and then it will turn to bitter cold until late April.

I won't miss this AT ALL.

Aside from weather, there really isn't that much that appeals to me about NYC, never did really love here and I am born and raised here.

Luckily, I might soon be in a position to expedite my move out to CA...and I cannot wait!

[NyWriterdude]

Originally Posted by RiseoftheTriads

LA just doesn't have the dynamism and sheer concentration of interesting things to do and see as NYC. Both have their downsides and advantages though

A huge percentage of people who live here in NYC, for various reasons, don't do anything. Its not like natives regularly go to the opera or Broadway. I'm not speaking of everyone, but there's a decent percentage of people who barely leave their neighborhood.

[NyWriterdude]

Originally Posted by thebordella

This goes back to personal lifestyle preference. I enjoy driving around LA and exploring new areas. I'd rather be chugging along through a new and interesting neighborhood than buried underground on a hot smelly subway. And I've been on plenty of hot smelly subway rides to know.

But again, this thread is about coming to LA from NYC. I don't buy the point of view that most NYC residents are hitting the corners of every borough on the magical tube system every weekend.

During weekends and nights they do construction on the subway. At times entire lines are out of service during weekends or nights when they do construction work. So weekend travel by subway here is often HORRIBLE.

50% of households in NYC have cars, and there's a reason for it.

The lay off of the train system isn't that good. For me to go from the North Bronx to Central Queens is at most 25 minutes if I drive. By train its 2 HOURS.

[PDF]

At any rate, the LA Metro system is absolutely pathetic compared to the MTA in NYC.

[BorisBlack]

There is no way 50% of people in Manhattan have cars. Maybe if you are counting all 5 Boros.

[Mr. Zero]

Originally Posted by jen5276

The whole "four seasons" argument makes me laugh...I hear that from so many NYers who cannot imagine living somewhere else..I feel bad for people who are stuck here for the rest of their lives

To each, their own. I miss the summer thunderstorms and the winter blizzards. Shoveling, puddles on the street corners, dirty snow and icy walks. I actually do miss it all.

[NyWriterdude]

Originally Posted by BorisBlack

There is no way 50% of people in Manhattan have cars. Maybe if you are counting all 5 Boros.

50% of people in ALL households in NYC have cars. 16% of households in Manhattan have cars. Manhattan is not all NYC.

[NyWriterdude]

Originally Posted by PDF

At any rate, the LA Metro system is absolutely pathetic compared to the MTA in NYC.

But since 50% of all households in NYC have cars, that tells you what a big percentage of New Yorkers think about the system here, doesn't it?