Why do people in the Mid-West, South, @ SW hate on LA so much? (renting, condo)

[rmissourimule]

Originally Posted by munchitup

How does California determine national elections? Bush won without winning California, twice.

In fact, if we broke up into three states we would have even more power, and instead of two Senators we would get 6, and they most likely would all be Democrats, or perhaps 2/3 Democrats depending on how it was broken up (make a Republican state out of the Central Valley and SD / Imperial Counties). We would still have the same amount of electoral college votes, and the GOP would get very little out of the "new" conservative state which would be made up of California's least populous areas, giving it very few electoral college votes.

And not that I want California to leave the USA, but instead of giving us back to Mexico how about letting us become our own country? I think giving up California would be a huge mistake for the United States.

Also, I had to LOL at the Democrats committing voter fraud - ever heard of Voter Registration Cards? While there certainly are some disturbing tactics being used in Philadelphia and a few other inner cities by radical groups, the systematic and institutionalized disenfranchisement of lower-class minority voters by GOP party officials is much more disturbing and un-American (and it has pretty much becoming the GOP's sole strategy to beat the demography battle they are losing badly). Turn off Fox News and pick up a copy of the Economist, a real conservative news source.

Did you forget those bat wielding black panthers who greeted the white voters in Philadelphia?

I don't where you are coming from really. Virtually all large metropolitan areas are controlled by Democratic machines who are past masters of voter fraud.

Since Bush won in 2000, and a recount did show that, there have been a large trending of Democratic voters in Virginia. And Ohio is the true bellweather state. If a Republican cannot win it it is a virtual impossibility to win the election. And it goes without saying that Florida is a must win for the Republicans. What the Republicans are left with are the large, geographically, states but with few electoral votes. Look at Montana. They have one (1) representative and rank #3 in size. Of course all states have two senators regardless of the population. I said it before when the Democrats start at 2nd base on the way to get to home base because of California's large electoral vote, the Republicans have at minimum one arm tied behind them. And California is so Democratic that both houses are controlled and no Republican can get anything done there. It is a lost cause. But the rub will be when it either goes bankrupt or goes to the taxpayers to get a bail-out.

I was raised and voted Democratic through 1976. Then Jimmah Carter came along and the scales fell from my eyes. And I haven't looked back. We cannot afford this permanent socialism, 14% real unemployment and no growth. And looks who gets slaughtered. It is the poor or marginally middle class with no savings. Every time they go to the gas pump they see the policies of the environmentalists who don't mind killing endangered birds with their silly windmills but shreik if some "endangered" ant or spider is endangered and hold up progress.

The truth is that our nation is sitting on vast quantities of natural resources, excluding coal that should have freed us from the ME a long time ago. A recent article I read recently indicated that the recycling of carbon and its settling into the ocean eventually forms natural gas (methane) which effectively gives us an inexhaustible amount of energy that will never run out. "Peak Energy" is a myth and California is the epicenter of that nonsense and crams their beliefs down our throats and we have to pony up the money to pay for it. That's why I despise California.

[munchitup]

Originally Posted by rmissourimule

Did you forget those bat wielding black panthers who greeted the white voters in Philadelphia?

I don't where you are coming from really. Virtually all large metropolitan areas are controlled by Democratic machines who are past masters of voter fraud.

Since Bush won in 2000, and a recount did show that, there have been a large trending of Democratic voters in Virginia. And Ohio is the true bellweather state. If a Republican cannot win it it is a virtual impossibility to win the election. And it goes without saying that Florida is a must win for the Republicans. What the Republicans are left with are the large, geographically, states but with few electoral votes. Look at Montana. They have one (1) representative and rank #3 in size. Of course all states have two senators regardless of the population. I said it before when the Democrats start at 2nd base on the way to get to home base because of California's large electoral vote, the Republicans have at minimum one arm tied behind them. And California is so Democratic that both houses are controlled and no Republican can get anything done there. It is a lost cause. But the rub will be when it either goes bankrupt or goes to the taxpayers to get a bail-out.

I was raised and voted Democratic through 1976. Then Jimmah Carter came along and the scales fell from my eyes. And I haven't looked back. We cannot afford this permanent socialism, 14% real unemployment and no growth. And looks who gets slaughtered. It is the poor or marginally middle class with no savings. Every time they go to the gas pump they see the policies of the environmentalists who don't mind killing endangered birds with their silly windmills but shreik if some "endangered" ant or spider is endangered and hold up progress.

The truth is that our nation is sitting on vast quantities of natural resources, excluding coal that should have freed us from the ME a long time ago. A recent article I read recently indicated that the recycling of carbon and its settling into the ocean eventually forms natural gas (methane) which effectively gives us an inexhaustible amount of energy that will never run out. "Peak Energy" is a myth and California is the epicenter of that nonsense and crams their beliefs down our throats and we have to pony up the money to pay for it. That's why I despise California.

Well, at least this is a more fleshed-out reasoning for hating California. That's cool, I probably hate whatever state you are from too (okay, if it is Missouri I care so little about the place that I have no feelings for it in any way shape or form).

[nslander]

Originally Posted by munchitup

Well, at least this is a more fleshed-out reasoning for hating California. That's cool

Not cool, really. Claiming two scary black guys in berets has greater electoral significance than systemic voter repression and election fraud is insulting and just stupid.

[Hawaii4evr]

They are jealous. Midwesterners and Bay Area residents want the LA weather, but since they cannot have it, they hate. San Diegans are jealous that LA offers more, so they hate. BUT, SD residents have more reason to hate on it. San Diego is not as crowded, more relaxed, and cleaner than Los Angeles. Better beaches and scenery and milder weather too, so those are some reasons people I know here prefer San Diego. I disagree. Yes, San Diego is better for those things, but just by a little. I love the culture and diversity found in LA. San Diego just does not have this.

[rmissourimule]

Originally Posted by Hawaii4evr

They are jealous. Midwesterners and Bay Area residents want the LA weather, but since they cannot have it, they hate. San Diegans are jealous that LA offers more, so they hate. BUT, SD residents have more reason to hate on it. San Diego is not as crowded, more relaxed, and cleaner than Los Angeles. Better beaches and scenery and milder weather too, so those are some reasons people I know here prefer San Diego. I disagree. Yes, San Diego is better for those things, but just by a little. I love the culture and diversity found in LA. San Diego just does not have this.

Actually the weather has nothing to do with the way I feel. We toured California in 1975 and I was never so glad to get out of there in my life. Now as to Oregon, we liked it so much that we went on a vacation to Eugene the year Mt. St. Helens blew its top. We even thought about moving there. But never California.

I live in Arkansas, surely one of the most pretty states to be found anywhere. Mountains, lakes, moderate weather, friendly people, low taxes, politicians who mind their own business and not coming up with wacky ideas about how to control people. One of our highways (23 I believe) is considered one of the ninth most scenic drives in the United States. I haven't met an unfriendly person in the two years we moved here. What's not to like?

[rmissourimule]

Originally Posted by nslander

Not cool, really. Claiming two scary black guys in berets has greater electoral significance than systemic voter repression and election fraud is insulting and just stupid.

I'm not quite sure how to take your comments. Where is this "systemic voter repression" that you speak of? I'm not seeing it. In most places there is a higher black voter registration than white voter registration.

There is plenty of voter fraud to be sure but 99.99% is by Democratic party machines. Dead voters, illegal voters, voters who vote "early and often" are aplenty. They just manufacture the results they want. If they can't get the numbers on election day they just find some more Democratic votes under someone's desk that was "misplaced." Not unlike the old Soviet Union and Iran of today.

Most people probably don't know this but we do not have a national election. 50 states have their own separate elections under different rules, hours, and other local regulations. Some are clean as a whistle. Others are just frauds that is overlooked by the lapdog media/press.

As a Republican myself, if any Republican vote is cast fraudulently, I want that person breaking rocks at Leavenworth. I want every eligible voter to have his vote counted one time but I want no inelegible voter to be counted that only serves to render the eligible vote irrelevant.

[munchitup]

Originally Posted by rmissourimule

I'm not quite sure how to take your comments. Where is this "systemic voter repression" that you speak of? I'm not seeing it. In most places there is a higher black voter registration than white voter registration.

There is plenty of voter fraud to be sure but 99.99% is by Democratic party machines. Dead voters, illegal voters, voters who vote "early and often" are aplenty. They just manufacture the results they want. If they can't get the numbers on election day they just find some more Democratic votes under someone's desk that was "misplaced." Not unlike the old Soviet Union and Iran of today.

Most people probably don't know this but we do not have a national election. 50 states have their own separate elections under different rules, hours, and other local regulations. Some are clean as a whistle. Others are just frauds that is overlooked by the lapdog media/press.

As a Republican myself, if any Republican vote is cast fraudulently, I want that person breaking rocks at Leavenworth. I want every eligible voter to have his vote counted one time but I want no inelegible voter to be counted that only serves to render the eligible vote irrelevant.

You are obviously not paying much attention to legit news sources:

http://articles.latimes.com/2012/oct...-laws-20121008

Congressional representation: Now that

http://www.economist.com/blogs/democ...ts-discontents

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/06/1...f-voter-fraud/

http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/06/2...terviewed.html

[rmissourimule]

Originally Posted by munchitup

You are obviously not paying much attention to legit news sources:

Courts block Republicans' voter ID laws – for now - Los Angeles Times

Congressional representation: Now that

Voter fraud and its discontents: Restricting the franchise | The Economist

Virginia Republican pleads guilty to dozens of counts of voter fraud | The Raw Story

TALLAHASSEE: State investigators never interviewed tipster in GOP voter fraud case - Florida - MiamiHerald.com

I'll be upfront and honest with you. I do not follow propaganda outlets like the L.A. Times. It's an arm of the Democratic party as is the NY Times and the majority of the mass media. They all drink from the same Kool-Aid.

I heard it said best one time. People believe what they want to believe. The way I see it is do I believe what I am told by someone with a political ax to grind or do I believe my own lying eyes?

And I've said it before. If any Republican commits voter fraud he or she should be pounding rocks in Leavenworth. What's good for the goose is good for the gander.

[Fontucky]

Originally Posted by rmissourimule

politicians who mind their own business and not coming up with wacky ideas about how to control people.

Really?

• 40 counties are dry.

• This year adopted the country’s most restrictive ban on abortion.

• Did they repeal the statewide Blue Laws yet?

• Is one of a handful of states that constitutionally bans atheists from holding public office.

[edsg25]

Chicagoan here. Love LA. Lots of us Chicagoans do. Don't know where you get the idea that folks in this part of the country would hate LA. OK, I get it: Chicago has more in common with LA than it does with most of the Midwest. Still..