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Old 03-27-2008, 11:10 PM
 
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Don't even try to say that LA is flat. All of the South Bay, LAX, Westchester, Playa del Rey, Santa Monica cliffs, SaMo mountains, PV, parts of Long Beach, all of SFV except central, southern SGV, SCV, pretty much all of OC, large portions of the IE. The only flat parts are a few in the basin, central SFV, easter SGV, Lancaster/Palmdale, and parts of the IE. Oh, and the Angeles National Forest? Please...that has tons of forests and mountains. Even San Diegans come up to LA in the winter to go skiing and snowboarding. We have lakes in our mountains, large pine forests, much more snow in the mnts. than SD, and ski resorts. The SaMo Mnts. are quite large and have tons of hiking trails and parks. We have tons of more mountain ranges than SD. We have more varied climates. Los Angeles has much more to do. Personally, I like LA better because I'm Jewish and Democrat so I fit in better. However, I may side with McCain because he will be harsh on illegals in this country. If he didn't want the war, he would definitely be my favorite candidate.
Sure about the McAain illegals thing? I think not my friend...I think these of us who are against amnesty would be best to go with Obama...he has received countless union endorsements and many of these unions have let him no that they do not favor illegals coming into the country lowering wages...none of the candidates have a perfect track record on the illegal issue, but Obama is the best bet IMO...San Diego rules!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!
I like LA also...OC rules too...can't forget the bay...
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Old 03-27-2008, 11:51 PM
 
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Well, yeah. Obama and McCain are pretty close. I forgot about that. Now I'll go with Obama. Clinton is too nice to be a president, IMO. I wish she could be president though, just don't support her views.
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Old 03-28-2008, 03:11 AM
 
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please note, I meant "know" instead of "no"
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Old 03-28-2008, 01:51 PM
 
Location: CITY OF ANGELS AND CONSTANT DANGER
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yeah sounds like you really know mccains immigration policy. why again does everthing turn to immigration. its kinda like the race thing. this country is stuck on race and it is stuck on immigration. wow is all i gots to say
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Old 03-28-2008, 10:45 PM
 
Location: los angeles
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San Diego is the only large city in California that predominately votes Republican & that's largely due to the huge military bases. People are stationed in San Diego from other areas of the US, esp the Mid West & South [big recruitment areas]. They bring their more conservative opinions/bias than the typical Californian.

Los Angeles is a big union city/lots of writers/TV & motion picture capital of the world. Big universities, art museums, cultural opportunities [plays, music even opera]. Republicans don't exist [or at least don't admit to voting for Bush for fear of losing friends/jobs]. The 15 member City Council are all Democrats except one Republican & one Green]. Does anyone know of a Republican congressman from LA? [there is one in San Dimas but that's 30 miles away].

San Diego has the NFL though & one of the most beautiful park/zoo in the world.
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Old 03-29-2008, 12:26 AM
 
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San Diego is the only large city in California that predominately votes Republican & that's largely due to the huge military bases. People are stationed in San Diego from other areas of the US, esp the Mid West & South [big recruitment areas]. They bring their more conservative opinions/bias than the typical Californian.

Los Angeles is a big union city/lots of writers/TV & motion picture capital of the world. Big universities, art museums, cultural opportunities [plays, music even opera]. Republicans don't exist [or at least don't admit to voting for Bush for fear of losing friends/jobs]. The 15 member City Council are all Democrats except one Republican & one Green]. Does anyone know of a Republican congressman from LA? [there is one in San Dimas but that's 30 miles away].

San Diego has the NFL though & one of the most beautiful park/zoo in the world.
From everything I have seen, the city itself did not vote republican...it voted slightly for kerry...in the 2004 election...the burbs tipped it for bush...what does it matter...would you really chose to live in a city because of how it votes...who would chose their friends conservative or liberal...based on political persuasion...whether sd voted rep or dem...it is still a cool place...who cares about how one votes...why do we need the groupthink philosophy? isn't the guy who represents the southwestern part of oc and the very southern tip of long beach and part of la (I believe san pedro, I could be mistaken...a republican in the congress)? I think there are conservatives in la...I mean...where did ronald reagan come from? the guy who helped make my state the republican stronghold it is now? did he not get his political start in los angeles? yes, maybe........................................
who cares...we are all americans...
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Old 03-29-2008, 09:23 AM
 
Location: los angeles
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From everything I have seen, the city itself did not vote republican...it voted slightly for kerry...in the 2004 election...the burbs tipped it for bush...what does it matter...would you really chose to live in a city because of how it votes...who would chose their friends conservative or liberal...based on political persuasion...whether sd voted rep or dem...it is still a cool place...who cares about how one votes...why do we need the groupthink philosophy? isn't the guy who represents the southwestern part of oc and the very southern tip of long beach and part of la (I believe san pedro, I could be mistaken...a republican in the congress)? I think there are conservatives in la...I mean...where did ronald reagan come from? the guy who helped make my state the republican stronghold it is now? did he not get his political start in los angeles? yes, maybe........................................
who cares...we are all americans...
It does matter how a city or state votes since it shows how the citizens think and act. California is a "blue" state [heavily Democratic or left-wing w/ the largest number of Green/socialists in the US. People on the Left have more compassion for others like the poor/disabled/children/gays/etc. They are more concerned about the environment/setting aside unspoiled areas as reserves/parks/clean water & air. Progressives are concerned about economic justice, health care for all, free education from grade school to college.

I honestly could not live in a city that was primarily Republican because they are none of the above but instead focus on a narrow ultra-conservative ideology that is part fundamentalist Christian [ie Baptist/evangelical] and part anti-social. A typical Republican is more concerned about self than others, sees taxes to build roads/school/hospitals/etc as a waste of money if they don't plan to use any of these services. Republicans are selfish and generally bigots but claim to be good Christians yet act like hypocrites. Anyone who voted for Bush twice is a person that I want to avoid at all costs.

That's why I prefer to live in California and Los Angeles. With the exceptions of the Central Valley [farm communities] only Orange & San Diego counties are Republicans. Thankfully both San Diego and Orange County are becoming less Republican thanks to the disaster called Bush. California will never be considered a "red" state since the mixture of people and cultures are so diverse that a narrow, racist, pathologically self-centered ideology is so anti-California. The Republican party in California continues to shrink. They can't appeal to the average Californian because California most certainly isn't Texas.

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Old 04-06-2008, 06:58 PM
 
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FYI...

from the American Heritage Dictionary

big¬∑ot (bĭg'ət)
n. One who is strongly partial to one's own group, religion, race, or politics and is intolerant of those who differ.

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.....I honestly could not live in a city that was primarily Republican...

....Republicans are selfish and generally bigots....

....Anyone who voted for Bush twice is a person that I want to avoid at all costs....
So I guess what you're saying is that people who are thinking of moving to southern CA will have to decide which bigots (SD or LA) they would rather live amongst.

Yikes.
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Old 04-06-2008, 09:06 PM
 
Location: California
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San Diego isn't even that bad as far as being majority republican. There's some backwater type areas, but the city itself is pretty open-minded.

Very accepting of others, and very involved in environment issues.

I mean doesn't San Diego have one of the biggest gay celebrations in its Hillcrest neighborhood?

I think there is a lot of influence from the military and rich wasp presence in San Diego. But the whole city isn't so bad.
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Old 04-06-2008, 09:16 PM
 
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San Diego isn't even that bad as far as being majority republican. There's some backwater type areas, but the city itself is pretty open-minded.

Very accepting of others, and very involved in environment issues.

I mean doesn't San Diego have one of the biggest gay celebrations in its Hillcrest neighborhood?

I think there is a lot of influence from the military and rich wasp presence in San Diego. But the whole city isn't so bad.
You have a great disdain from white people don't you "rich wasp"? Kinda like all those protesters on the "day without a mexican," talking about wanting tolerance and diversity...and then saying "white people go back to europe" and all of that happened in your neck of the woods...I assume you live somewhere in the la area...well...things are going to change my friend...in both California and Texas...things are going to change...
btw, happ, orange county gave kerry a slightly less percentage of the vote than it did gore...kerry did win slightly more of the percentage in 2004 than gore did in 2000 of san diego county...
orange county and san diego county are much more socially liberal than most parts of texas, so what does their voting for bush really matter? davidson county...which houses nashville in tennessee...has a strong democratic tradition...it is socially more conservative than oc and sdc...so really voting for rep or dem doesn't give you a good description of what a place is truly like, I base that on going to nashville and seeing it...I have only read about sd and orange on many places including city data...so that is really a presumption...but still...I think I have a pretty good point
also, Orange county's only democrat congressperson is a member of the blue dog coalition (the we aren't liberal democrats coalition)...honestly...I'd rather have a democrat who was liberal in every single manner except illegal immigration, than one who panders to the republican base in orange county by claiming she is a conservative and then supporting stoooopid legislation that opens our borders even further, how ridiculous is that?

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