U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Covid-19 Information Page
Go Back   City-Data Forum > U.S. Forums > California > Los Angeles
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 12-19-2007, 10:44 PM
 
Location: Concrete Jungle
240 posts, read 1,347,499 times
Reputation: 194

Advertisements

I am a bit baffled by your use of the term "sister" as I was not aware that I had a brother named Charles living in Colorado. However, if I did, I would certainly come to visit to check out the lower cost of living and the more affordable housing located there.

How does paying taxes in Colorado make you a part of the government here in LA, where I live? I pay my fair share of taxes too, here in LA. However, that does not make me part of the government. I have considered moving to areas that have more affordable housing and am planning such a move as I write this. Unfortunately, the cost of living is so high here that those of us of modest means have to plan for quite a while to make a move out of state because the cost of living here eats up ALL of our income; thus, there is no or very little discretionary income available to save for moving, retirement, a down payment on a home, etc. Not your problem, I know. All LA residents should be able to earn enough to afford a $400,000 mortgage. However, the problem with this economic theory is that there are not enough jobs here in LA that pay well enough for everyone here to afford a $400,000 plus mortgage.

Low income and middle class families who have 5 people living in a one bedroom apartment certainly can't afford a $400,000 mortgage. As I plan my own move out of the area, I can only pray that many of these familes will find their way out of LA and into an area that is more family friendly.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 12-20-2007, 12:30 AM
 
Location: South Bay
208 posts, read 917,250 times
Reputation: 90
many apartment building have rules on the max number of people.

sometimes 2 or 3 is the max for a one bedroom.

but...if it's a large one bedroom, having 4 people in there really isn't that outrageous. parents in the bedroom and kids on a sofa sleeper...it is not ideal but it works.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-20-2007, 12:52 AM
 
9,715 posts, read 13,629,765 times
Reputation: 3325
The City of LA does try to do something for low income residents. I read an article about a month ago about the new housing going in downtown and there is a component to all those buildings whereby they have to provide low income housing. I can't remember if it is 20% of the building units (or more or less) but it is a significant amount that have to go to low income people.

The article mentioned that some "high income" people freaked over the low income component and didn't want to live in "that type of building" -- but others were perfectly fine with it. They interviewed one guy who was going to be paying "regular prices" but he thought it was great that low income people would live there too. He actually preferred to live in an area that had a mix rather than with just all high-income people.

So... I think LA is trying. They are really trying...
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 12-20-2007, 06:47 AM
 
47 posts, read 156,243 times
Reputation: 21
Quote:
Originally Posted by UB50 View Post
The City of LA does try to do something for low income residents. I read an article about a month ago about the new housing going in downtown and there is a component to all those buildings whereby they have to provide low income housing. I can't remember if it is 20% of the building units (or more or less) but it is a significant amount that have to go to low income people.

The article mentioned that some "high income" people freaked over the low income component and didn't want to live in "that type of building" -- but others were perfectly fine with it. They interviewed one guy who was going to be paying "regular prices" but he thought it was great that low income people would live there too. He actually preferred to live in an area that had a mix rather than with just all high-income people.

So... I think LA is trying. They are really trying...
Yes, that law has been in place for a number of years and is real turn off when considering different upscale apartment complexes. Part of the allure for paying a high price for an apartment is the desire to be isolated from certain societal elements.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-20-2008, 06:24 PM
 
1 posts, read 5,916 times
Reputation: 11
Quote:
Originally Posted by LALady View Post
Here are the rules (as posted on the internet)

City of Los Angeles Municipal Code states that a unit is overcrowded when more than one person resides for each 200 square feet of living area. This would be grounds for eviction if your tenant has exceeded this number.

according to LAHD your idea of 1 person per every 200sq ft is incorrect.
jfyi..
Square FeetOccupancy per Person70-119 2 people120-169 3 people170-219 4 people220-269 5 people270-319 6 people320-369 7 people370-419 8 people420-469 9 people470-520 10 people
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-20-2008, 08:05 PM
 
11,715 posts, read 36,700,291 times
Reputation: 7522
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jerry Sch View Post
according to LAHD your idea of 1 person per every 200sq ft is incorrect.
jfyi..
Square FeetOccupancy per Person70-119 2 people120-169 3 people170-219 4 people220-269 5 people270-319 6 people320-369 7 people370-419 8 people420-469 9 people470-520 10 people
10 people in 520 square feet?!?! I think my apartment is 700sf or so and sometimes it feels cramped with two people. LA is truly 3rd world if they allow that many people per square foot.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-20-2008, 09:42 PM
 
142 posts, read 708,853 times
Reputation: 46
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jerry Sch View Post
according to LAHD your idea of 1 person per every 200sq ft is incorrect.
jfyi..
Square FeetOccupancy per Person70-119 2 people120-169 3 people170-219 4 people220-269 5 people270-319 6 people320-369 7 people370-419 8 people420-469 9 people470-520 10 people
I live in a studio apartment with one other person, and it's 400 sf... I find the above insane!
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-20-2008, 10:49 PM
 
2,574 posts, read 7,880,943 times
Reputation: 2563
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jerry Sch View Post
according to LAHD your idea of 1 person per every 200sq ft is incorrect.
jfyi..
Square FeetOccupancy per Person70-119 2 people120-169 3 people170-219 4 people220-269 5 people270-319 6 people320-369 7 people370-419 8 people420-469 9 people470-520 10 people
those limits apply to bedrooms only, not the entire unit. of course ten people can't legally reside in a 520 sq ft unit!

incidentally, landlords may enforce stricter occupancy limits, but not more lenient ones. municipalities may alter the state standard in either direction, but LA has not done so.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-20-2008, 11:06 PM
 
6,473 posts, read 10,711,250 times
Reputation: 6373
Quote:
Originally Posted by SandyCo View Post
I think the occupancy limits are two people to each room - meaning that if you have a one-bedroom apartment, four (!) people can live there legally. The living room counts as one room, and of course, so does the bedroom. This whole thing makes no sense, because in a two-bedroom, it's legal to have six people, even if they're all only sharing one bathroom!

And no, this isn't that surprising. That's how I would be forced to live if I hadn't been living in a rent-controlled apartment for ten years. People don't live like this by choice, but by necessity.
Agreed. Nobody in their right mind poor or middle class would choose to live this way on purpose.

Thank goodness I live in a rent-controlled apartment I can barely afford too.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-21-2008, 08:32 AM
 
Location: Hot Springs, AR
5,612 posts, read 13,815,421 times
Reputation: 3759
Quote:
Originally Posted by UB50 View Post
The City of LA does try to do something for low income residents. I read an article about a month ago about the new housing going in downtown and there is a component to all those buildings whereby they have to provide low income housing. I can't remember if it is 20% of the building units (or more or less) but it is a significant amount that have to go to low income people.

The article mentioned that some "high income" people freaked over the low income component and didn't want to live in "that type of building" -- but others were perfectly fine with it. They interviewed one guy who was going to be paying "regular prices" but he thought it was great that low income people would live there too. He actually preferred to live in an area that had a mix rather than with just all high-income people.

So... I think LA is trying. They are really trying...
These apartments are usually snatched up by the hordes of illegals who qualify for section 8 (subsidized housing) because they popped out kids the second they hit the city, so now their kids are citizens and qualify for benefits even though NO ONE has paid into the tax system that makes that program possible.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Options
X
Data:
Loading data...
Based on 2000-2016 data
Loading data...

123
Hide US histogram

Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > U.S. Forums > California > Los Angeles
Follow City-Data.com founder on our Forum or

All times are GMT -6.

© 2005-2020, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35 - Top