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Old 12-23-2007, 12:37 PM
 
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The bottom line is that Arnold has already voiced his objection to early prison releases, as the article points out, so the likelihood of it happening seems slim.
Actually ... the bottom line is that the legislature just appropriated $8 billion for new prisons BUT ...

The budget deficit has gotten worse so this is ... more than likely ... a shell game to dodge the deficit mess.

What Arnold really wants is for the federal judges to order the prisoner release so he can blame somebody else for it and ...

Simultaneously use the $8 billion to try to take care of the deficit instead of building new prisons.
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Old 12-24-2007, 12:50 AM
 
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WOW nice title incredibly misleading but I think that was the point.

minimum security with less than 20 months on their sentence and all non violent offenders. You somehow equate that to filling up the murder rolls in the LA Times?
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Old 12-24-2007, 05:20 AM
 
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Bingo my friend! My little hick town of 50,000 has higher per capita crime than L.A. and MORE IMIGRANTS!!!
Yep ... look at the 2006 stats just posted on this website.

LA only has a crime rate of 383 crimes per 100,000 people.

Compare that with these cities:

Houston: 659
Dallas: 727
Las Vegas: 571
Denver: 491
Seattle: 557
Charlotte: 691

LA's crime rate is actually incredibly low. It just goes to show how perception can have nothing to do with reality.

People, for example, think Texas is a tough law and order state yet ... their major cities actually have the worst crime rates in the nation.

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Old 12-24-2007, 05:25 AM
 
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WOW nice title incredibly misleading but I think that was the point.

minimum security with less than 20 months on their sentence and all non violent offenders. You somehow equate that to filling up the murder rolls in the LA Times?
Well ... according to this article ...

http://www.americanchronicle.com/art...rticleID=46893

Who are these “non-serious” non-violent” felons?

According to former state Sen. Jim Nielsen who chaired the California Board of Prison Terms from 1991 to 2000 and later served as Deputy Commissioner until 2007, the law considers human trafficking, child abuse, domestic violence, pimping a child for prostitution, solicitation to commit murder, elder abuse, hate crimes, torturing and killing a domestic animal, manufacturing methamphetamines, armed burglary, firearms felonies, sending Internet porn to minors, creation of child pornography, solicitation of rape and child molestation as non-serious and non-violent crimes.
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Old 12-26-2007, 10:17 AM
 
Location: Earth
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Well ... according to this article ...

http://www.americanchronicle.com/art...rticleID=46893

Who are these “non-serious” non-violent” felons?

According to former state Sen. Jim Nielsen who chaired the California Board of Prison Terms from 1991 to 2000 and later served as Deputy Commissioner until 2007, the law considers human trafficking, child abuse, domestic violence, pimping a child for prostitution, solicitation to commit murder, elder abuse, hate crimes, torturing and killing a domestic animal, manufacturing methamphetamines, armed burglary, firearms felonies, sending Internet porn to minors, creation of child pornography, solicitation of rape and child molestation as non-serious and non-violent crimes.
I don't know how credible a site that is as it contains links to white supremacist sites. However IMO the threat to release prisoners early is Arnold's way of trying to get the Republicans in the legislature behind a tax increase. They'll have to choose between their love for "law and order" or their hatred for taxes.
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