San Fernando Valley Culture (Orange, Thousand Oaks: house, to buy, high school)

[JeffSanDimas]

Originally Posted by Captain.Captain

True, but im talking about the embracing more than just that. People always view the valley in negative ways for that reason, but you're right they're not exclusive to only the valley.

What's to embrace? It used to be a cool and family friendly suburban area with a unique subculture. Then "the flood" if you know what I mean, descended on SoCal sometime in the late 80s or early 90s and white flight started, then in 1994 the earthquake sped up white flight and now the Valley is about 1/6 rich folks of foreign or Judaic origin, 1/6 trendy types, 2/3 ghetto filled with gang bangers and illegals. I'm just talking about the City of LA not independent cities like Burbank which have stayed nice.

[UB50]

Originally Posted by jm1982

History of those places are pretty amazing. Of course now they are forgetting except for in the history books although the physical buildings are still there. I live down the street from the Palomino .

Hard to imagine that it was once a place where the big country legends would perform.

Palomino Club (North Hollywood) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

It sounds like the bar and area was kind of rough and working class even back in those days. The wikipedia link as some interesting articles at the bottom of it.

Filthy McNastys was a rock club , its now a latin club. It's at Lankershim/Victory. With the promixiity to the noho arts district I could see this one day going back to being a rock venue. I'm sure at some point a larger music venue will open up in the noho arts district area. This area of North Hollywood has more chance for gentrification than further north on lankershim.

I don't think the area around the Palomino has changed much. It's always been working class since I've lived here. We used to go to lunch there occasionally.

That neighborhood might fall into the class of "Looks more dangerous than it is."

[Captain.Captain]

Originally Posted by JeffSanDimas

What's to embrace? It used to be a cool and family friendly suburban area with a unique subculture. Then "the flood" if you know what I mean, descended on SoCal sometime in the late 80s or early 90s and white flight started, then in 1994 the earthquake sped up white flight and now the Valley is about 1/6 rich folks of foreign or Judaic origin, 1/6 trendy types, 2/3 ghetto filled with gang bangers and illegals. I'm just talking about the City of LA not independent cities like Burbank which have stayed nice.

You're the type of person im talking about. Whats wrong with Illegals? Most of the stuff White Folks consider ghetto is not actually really ghetto but cultural influences. I've heard many white/judgmental people judge traditional Mexican architecture, and call it ghetto. I understand this type of culture isn't the most appealing to certain groups because of the ethnic barrier, but its rich and deeply rooted ever since before the "whit invasion". & why do you combine illegals and gang bangers into one statistic, why not combine the trendy people and rich people into 1? if i was trying to make a fair assessment i wouldn't go out and say, "that place is filled with 2/3 white people and trailer trash".

I would say you're probably right about the 1/6 rich population but wheres your source on all these numbers? i would say its 1/6 gang bangers and the other 2/3 is working class people, not a statistic based on fact but I've lived here all my life so im basing it on experience. The valley is so looked down upon because everyone associates the gang banging activity with us but really most of everyone here is hard working family types just trying to get by.

The more i think of it, the more I want to find a way to give the people who live here a reason to be proud.

[jm1982]

Originally Posted by UB50

I don't think the area around the Palomino has changed much. It's always been working class since I've lived here. We used to go to lunch there occasionally.

That neighborhood might fall into the class of "Looks more dangerous than it is."

Yeah, it looks really bad and there is crime, but I think a lot of it is because it's a heavily industrial area and a lot of autobody shops around. It would be great to see the area cleaned up more , but doesn't seem to be on the cities list of priorities right now .

There are improvements happening in North Hollywood..but quite a bit further south on Lankershim..

[RaymondChandlerLives]

why do you combine illegals and gang bangers into one statistic

Because that's all he sees Latinos as.

Anyway, the valley has a fascinating history. It's role in the aerospace industry is amazing, bittersweet since most of it is long gone.

[StreetLegal]

Parts of the Valley could be called the workhorse of Los Angeles where key pieces of movie and musical history were created. And there used to be the GM plant before it was shutdown in the 80's (I think). The racist yet groundbreaking Birth of a Nation was filmed at Universal circa 1915/1916 or so.

And the famous Sound City Studios (1970 to 2011) were located in a non-descript warehouse style building in Van Nuys. Pumped out tons of key recordings during its run including Nirvana's Nevermind.

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[jm1982]

Originally Posted by StreetLegal

Parts of the Valley could be called the workhorse of Los Angeles where key pieces of movie and musical history were created. And there used to be the GM plant before it was shutdown in the 80's (I think). The racist yet groundbreaking Birth of a Nation was filmed at Universal circa 1915/1916 or so.

And the famous Sound City Studios (1970 to 2011) were located in a non-descript warehouse style building in Van Nuys. Pumped out tons of key recordings during its run including Nirvana's Nevermind.

New Details on Dave Grohl's 'Sound City' Documentary | Rolling Stone

Sound City Studios - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

One of the cool aspects of Valley history is that a lot of it is hidden or unknown.

It's kind of cool learning about different things that many people just overlook.

Places like Sound City Studios is a great example of that. Many people would never guess Nirvana and so many bands would of recorded there in Van Nuys.

Regarding the GM plant, I heard that there was a big decline the valley after that happened as those were good paying jobs.

Now there is the shopping center 'The Plant' , which has a movie theatre and a number of stores. Definately a much different type of impact on the economy versus a car factory.

The valley does have potential and there is certainly a lot happening now in Sherman Oaks and Studio City restaurant wise at least, but there are so many parts that are neglected and blighted. It's pretty disheartening at times.

[ebn78]

The Valley has become a SEWER thanks to all the self entitled third world immigrants! What a shame! From a beautiful and clean and crime free place to raise a family to a DUMP!

[ebn78]

The Old Valley -- What it WAS!

[Cream1]

Much of the Valley is still nice. The entire 101 corridor, the Valley west of Topanga Canyon, and the 118 corridor from Chatsworth to Granada Hills are all nice.

The bad parts are the center and NE corner of the Valley.