Freddie Gray riots in Baltimore - Will L.A have their own protests/riots? (Los Angeles: credit, loans)

[jm1982]

I don't know if anybody views either of them as leaders of anything these days.

I think people mostly view them as entertainment perhaps.

I feel Sharpton and Limbaugh likely cause more harm that good.

One thing they both have in common is that they profit for these types of cases/stories.

Just like CNN is profiting now and FoxNews too...and all the other stations.

[jm1982]

Originally Posted by BeatAngMoh

And yes its a spectacle. Remember in '92 the Rodney King Riots were as much about an economic windfall for people as it was about justice not being served. A lot of the looting was done by Hispanics who took the opportunity to grab what they could for free. I think most didn't even understand the historical context of the riots but it didn't matter.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0lCdRZngG4

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[munchitup]

Originally Posted by BeatAngMoh

Dialogue is impossible IMO when you have folks like Sharpton assuming representation for all Black people. And on the other end of the spectrum you have people like Rush Limbaugh assuming they are the voice for whites. There was nothing to demonstrate the officers were racist. No specific data point has been revealed. But through the lens of the Black community this is an extension of Jim Crow era lynchings when a Black kid could be picked randomly for any crime on a white person, even for looking at a white woman.

I my god I agree with you.

This is just like the current political climate. Everyone is talking past each other. It gets nothing done and makes each side more resentful and less likely to cooperate. The American public is in a pretty sad state right now - it's not just the politicians, it is nearly everyone.

What happened to the guy in Baltimore sounds very wrong to me, and it sounds like Baltimore PD has had a history of abuse. However, that has little to do with us here in LA. I get being supportive of victims of police brutality, but LA doesn't need mini-riots/protests for all of these things happening on the other side of the country. I understand LA is far from a perfect place and has a very racist history itself, but these locations (Missouri, Maryland) have a heavily ingrained racism that is inherent in their cultures. My cousin used to live in Mississippi and hated it because, simply put, every single person was racist. Blacks hated whites, whites hated blacks. Not that we live in a racial shangri-la but it is certainly quite a bit better here.

Quietly, Los Angeles has had some police-on-civilian deaths. I think it does show that circumstances like the one in Baltimore and Ferguson are/were special - in the instances where the victim was clearly in the wrong, nobody got all that upset.

[jm1982]

If we do have issues in L.A , I hope that our Mayor doesn't give 'space' to the rioters to destroy stuff..

The odd tactic of giving Baltimore protesters 'space' to destroy property | Fusion

[BeatAngMoh]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SOwK6L5-mk

[jm1982]

Originally Posted by munchitup

I my god I agree with you.

This is just like the current political climate. Everyone is talking past each other. It gets nothing done and makes each side more resentful and less likely to cooperate. The American public is in a pretty sad state right now - it's not just the politicians, it is nearly everyone.

What happened to the guy in Baltimore sounds very wrong to me, and it sounds like Baltimore PD has had a history of abuse. However, that has little to do with us here in LA. I get being supportive of victims of police brutality, but LA doesn't need mini-riots/protests for all of these things happening a world away.

Quietly, Los Angeles has had some police-on-civilian deaths. I think it does show that circumstances like the one in Baltimore and Ferguson are/were special - in the instances where the victim was clearly in the wrong, nobody got all that upset.

I don't think the political climate has been good for a long time though. When was it ever great political climate?Was it good during Bush, was it good during Clinton? I'm not sure if people are realizing that politicians can only do so much.

At the Presidential level, I think a lot of people were expecting more change perhaps.
I don't like when people say that Obama hasn't done anything. Also it's pretty sick that the Republicans have really been working against him from the beginning, even on things they thought were good ideas.
That just hurts the country.

[BeatAngMoh]

Originally Posted by jm1982

If we do have issues in L.A , I hope that our Mayor doesn't give 'space' to the rioters to destroy stuff..

The odd tactic of giving Baltimore protesters 'space' to destroy property | Fusion

That's a bad strategy. In '92 Daryl Gates (and I'm assuming Mayor Bradley had a say in it) gave space for the looters to torch and loot Korean owned businesses by withholding any police response. That was very unfair to the small business owners caught up in the events.

[Taiko]

Originally Posted by BeatAngMoh

That's a bad strategy. In '92 Daryl Gates (and I'm assuming Mayor Bradley had a say in it) gave space for the looters to torch and loot Korean owned businesses by withholding any police response. That was very unfair to the small business owners caught up in the events.

I'm not sure it was Gates who was away when the violence stared but there were calls to back off as the verdict was being waited on. In the end when the Lieutenant in charge left the people travelling on Florence unprotected for the first time in my life LAPD backed down and that night everything went to hell as there were not enough police and Highway Patrolmen to escort the fire department much less go after snipers and arsonist in the dark.

[BeatAngMoh]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5UGiTIirKw

[StreetLegal]

Originally Posted by Taiko

I'm not sure it was Gates who was away when the violence stared but there were calls to back off as the verdict was being waited on. In the end when the Lieutenant in charge left the people travelling on Florence unprotected for the first time in my life LAPD backed down and that night everything went to hell as there were not enough police and Highway Patrolmen to escort the fire department much less go after snipers and arsonist in the dark.

It didn't help matters that then Mayor, Tom Bradley, and Chief Gates had not spoken for over a year just prior to the start of the riots. Gates as an a-whole, as reprehensible a pubic servant as one could imagine. The poster boy for the term a thug with a badge.