What's Parts of LA will be gentrified in the next decade? (Hawthorne: apartment, neighborhoods)

[909er]

The black areas have much more potential than East L.A.

Does anyone here even know anything about East L.A.?

I spent some time there with some previous family. The Latino population there is Die Hard, and goes back generations. There are stories on EastsiderLA about the Latinos fighting gentrification in Boyle Heights because they are PISSED the white people are moving in.

East LA isnt just an area, it's a culture and a city-state. We aren't talking about normal areas here, and this isn't the 'it's different' argument. I'd bet the farm there is no way, ever, whites or hipsters gentrify East L.A.

[erin_elise_]

Does anyone have any idea about Hawthorne. I feel with it being sooo close to Manhattan beach and the other beach cities, it has sooo much potential. Does anyone feel the same??

[909er]

Hawthorne is nothing but dumpy apartments. No chance.

[jm1982]

I hear a lot about people thinking that areas might drastically change with more rail stations..but i'm not sure if that's true.

There are a lot of areas that have rail stations that still aren't considered great areas by a lot of people.

Of course it's hard to tell if they would be better or worse without the rail.

If the new stations do result in more people riding that traditionally have been nonusers I don't think it will happen overnight.
It would be a culture shift for many to give up their cars.

It will be interesting to see what happens for sure.

[socal88]

Originally Posted by 909er

The black areas have much more potential than East L.A.

Does anyone here even know anything about East L.A.?

I spent some time there with some previous family. The Latino population there is Die Hard, and goes back generations. There are stories on EastsiderLA about the Latinos fighting gentrification in Boyle Heights because they are PISSED the white people are moving in.

East LA isnt just an area, it's a culture and a city-state. We aren't talking about normal areas here, and this isn't the 'it's different' argument. I'd bet the farm there is no way, ever, whites or hipsters gentrify East L.A.

You're totally right about East LA. There was a time when Latinos, Japanese, Jews, and Italians all lived there but now that it's pretty much all Latino, it may be a long time before it becomes diverse assuming it ever even happens. East LA might have already reached the point of no return.

I don't think that areas like South LA have more potential than East L.A. The violence is still very high (the highest in the city). Areas with significant gentrification transformation like Silver Lake, Echo Park, Highland Park, and Venice had some violence, but it wasn't near the level of what it was in East LA or South LA.

Originally Posted by jm1982

I hear a lot about people thinking that areas might drastically change with more rail stations..but i'm not sure if that's true.

There are a lot of areas that have rail stations that still aren't considered great areas by a lot of people.

Of course it's hard to tell if they would be better or worse without the rail.

If the new stations do result in more people riding that traditionally have been nonusers I don't think it will happen overnight.
It would be a culture shift for many to give up their cars.

It will be interesting to see what happens for sure.

Having rail stations isn't going to magically help a place get better. While more people may have the opportunity to go to those areas, if there is no attraction or it's unsafe to begin with, then people won't go. If anything, rail stations provide a more affordable public transportation option to help individuals in lower income areas (that often also have higher crime) who may not be able to afford a car.

Like you said, there would have to be a major shift where a lot of people use public transportation. I don't see that happening anytime soon.

[JohnG72]

Being directly on the Gold, red, purple, or expo line is vastly different than being on the green or blue line, both in terms of car frequency and reliability, and in terms of neighborhood safety. blue and Green lines go through the most dangerous parts of LA. The other lines do not.

Nearly every subpar neighborhood on the gold and expo line will continue to gentrify. Nearly every stop on the redline already has to some extent, even Mcarthur Park.

[munchitup]

Originally Posted by 909er

Hawthorne is nothing but dumpy apartments. No chance.

Oh my god I agree with you. I went with a friend to look at some studios real close to the main drag in Hawthorne and it was pretty dumpy.

[shapeshift]

Central long beach for sure.. There has been recent revival of the old and little known historic zaferia district located on a section of the "Anaheim corridor" between junipero and ximeno I assume.. This area isn't really consider central long beach but east, they still overlap nonetheless.. Also, look for Cambodia town to be on the upswing as there has been a recent influx of wealthy and educated Cambodians.. Polytechnic high school also has some of the best programs in all of California.. So I assume middle income earners would seek more affordable living there as well for their kids sake..

[MItoBH]

Originally Posted by 909er

Hawthorne is nothing but dumpy apartments. No chance.

Not so fast. Those "dumpy" apartments can easily be sold to investors who will refurbish them beyond recognition, or tear them down and build something new. Hawthorne has potential, and surely within the next 10 years, it'll be clear.

[Cream1]

Originally Posted by MItoBH

Not so fast. Those "dumpy" apartments can easily be sold to investors who will refurbish them beyond recognition, or tear them down and build something new. Hawthorne has potential, and surely within the next 10 years, it'll be clear.

Couldn't that be said about any neighborhood?