09-17-2015, 08:34 AM
Location: Sacramento
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So here is the situation. Company wants hubby to relocate. Job is in Carson and we would like to live in a 3-bedroom 2-bath 2-car garage house. We currently pay 2k for our mortgage including escrow for taxes and insurance. We have 2 kids and a small dog so schools are very important. Safety is of course very important. How much more money should we ask for to have the quality of life we want?
09-17-2015, 08:50 AM
Location: Birmingham, Alabama
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Over Alabama's wages, I will be asking for 20%. Don't ask, you'll never know. Probably more slight of a bump since you already reside in the state. if they don't offer more, take a pass on it.
09-17-2015, 08:51 AM
Location: Southern California
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No clue what you make now but I used this:
Cost of Living Calculator: Compare the Cost of Living in Two Cities - CNNMoney
and it says if you make $75,000 in Sacramento the LA equivalent is $90,000. So approximately 20% more. This is obviously an estimate and many other factors should be looked at.
09-17-2015, 09:59 AM
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Mr_Geek
I've already seen that calculator. It doesn't help me for what I want. I was looking more into the real estate aspect. What neighborhoods I should look into? How much a similar house would cost? Which schools to buy nearby? Based on that I would calculate how much more the new mortgage would cost me. Then multiply by 12 and estimate taxes to arrive at a number to ask. Right now looking online I seem to only like the houses that are over a million dollars.
09-17-2015, 10:04 AM
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suzie02
I've already seen that calculator. It doesn't help me for what I want. I was looking more into the real estate aspect. What neighborhoods I should look into? How much a similar house would cost? Which schools to buy nearby? Based on that I would calculate how much more the new mortgage would cost me. Then multiply by 12 and estimate taxes to arrive at a number to ask. Right now looking online I seem to only like the houses that are over a million dollars.
Yep, in that aspect you are going to need a lot more than 20%. A 3/2 house here will most definitely be starting at upper 6 figures / lower 7 figures in decent areas. You will have to make some sacrifices to move here most likely. I doubt the job will offer a 200% pay increase over what you make now.
09-17-2015, 10:13 AM
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Even modest homes in non-crappy areas start at around $600k. If your wife doesn't work, you'd need to make about $120k to afford that mortgage with 20% down. If that doesn't seem doable you probably shouldn't move.
09-17-2015, 10:41 AM
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Yep, in that aspect you are going to need a lot more than 20%. A 3/2 house here will most definitely be starting at upper 6 figures / lower 7 figures in decent areas. You will have to make some sacrifices to move here most likely. I doubt the job will offer a 200% pay increase over what you make now.
Which are the decent areas near Carson? How far could we live with a decent commute? Is Orange Co better than LA county?
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Even modest homes in non-crappy areas start at around $600k. If your wife doesn't work, you'd need to make about $120k to afford that mortgage with 20% down. If that doesn't seem doable you probably shouldn't move.
We are already above the $120k. We want to be able to continue saving for retirement and kid's college and are trying to figure out which number would allow that. Then we are going to ask and if the say no we won't move.
09-17-2015, 11:07 AM
Location: Downtown Los Angeles, CA
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We can apply these +/- % calculators all day long but it's not that simple. We'd need the answers to the below questions:
How large of a down payment can you make?
What does your husband make now?
If your current mortgage is 30yrs, do you need to move to 15yrs?
3/2 homes in the Carson area start around $500k and quickly move to $700k. Not as insane as the West Side. So depending on your answers to the above questions, you may be asking for a fortune.
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09-17-2015, 12:09 PM
Location: Sacramento
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adr3naline
We can apply these +/- % calculators all day long but it's not that simple. We'd need the answers to the below questions:
How large of a down payment can you make?
What does your husband make now?
If your current mortgage is 30yrs, do you need to move to 15yrs?
3/2 homes in the Carson area start around $500k and quickly move to $700k. Not as insane as the West Side. So depending on your answers to the above questions, you may be asking for a fortune.
20% down
we are currently in a 15yr but expect we will have to go to 30yr.
About 120k
We've been told not to live in Carson.
09-17-2015, 01:06 PM
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20% down
Thanks.
So housing is the primary variable in this equation. Let's hold the others constant.
Carson is not so great for young families so lets say you find something nice in Long Beach.Prices of 3/2 SFR in Long Beach are $475-750k/avg. Via Zillow it appears this is 40% more than a comparable property in Sacramento. Long Beach's property tax is about on par with Sac so you're not pegged there.
Option 1: You maintain a nice standard of living and go for an updated $700k property. At a $700k purchase price with 20% down @ 30yrs + $7000 property taxes, you're looking at a ~$3600 mortgage depending on your credit and including $900/yr insurance, which is $1600 more than what you pay now. $1600 additional housing expenses + 30% taxes X 12 months = ~$30 yr. Your husband would need a bump from $120k to $150k, or 25% incremental increase.
Option 2: You buy a fixer upper @ $600k. At a $600k purchase price with 20% down @ 30yrs + $6000 property taxes, you're looking at a ~$2900 mortgage depending on your credit and including $900/yr insurance, which is $900 more than what you pay now. $900 additional housing expenses + 30% taxes X 12 months = ~$15k yr. Your husband would need a bump from $120k to $135k, or 12.5% incremental increase.
This math is by no means perfect, but I hope it helps.
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Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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