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Old 05-12-2016, 09:06 AM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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Originally Posted by LuvSouthOC View Post
The source of the information you posted is a homeless advocacy group which seeks to be the conduit by which the homeless are 'trained' to cease being homeless and rejoin society. I wonder where the money would come from to fund them. Their information is not reliable.
So what if they are a homeless advocacy group? Why would they skew the numbers, it's not like it makes any difference in the way we treat the homeless, you can't 'deport' the ones who aren't from LA.

And if you disagree, why don't you find a source that contradicts it? Almost every City with a significant homeless problem reports that around 3/4 of the homeless last resided in the area.

 
Old 05-12-2016, 09:18 AM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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If they "stayed near the communities from which they came", their demographics would be considerably different. The demographics of the homeless described are definitely not the demographics of Los Angeles. They sound more like the demographics of an eastern or midwestern city with low immigration there's no date on that survey.
What in the name of God are you talking about "they sound like the demographics of an eastern or midwestern city"? How do you think they got to LA, did they walk? remember, homelessness usually means a lack of resources. But what difference does it make where they came from, you can't "deport them". I'm still waiting for someone in this thread to come up with a solution...
 
Old 05-12-2016, 09:29 AM
 
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Your post is 100% correct! Those bums and drug addicted tweakers are worse than ever! California has fallen into the third world pits because they let everybody in and the secret people that control what is considered politically correct will make any critic into a racist thanks to the liberal media. Think about it for a minute, if you were a drug addicted loser bum living as a bum in California is a great choice. The weather is nice and the liberal give it all away Californians will keep handing you money everyday! Perfect!
It isn't just liberal California with alot of homeless. Texas and Georgia, with its conservative politics, have alot of homeless. Alot of tweakers in metro Atlanta, even out in the conservative suburbs.
 
Old 05-12-2016, 09:31 AM
 
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What in the name of God are you talking about "they sound like the demographics of an eastern or midwestern city"? How do you think they got to LA, did they walk? remember, homelessness usually means a lack of resources. But what difference does it make where they came from, you can't "deport them". I'm still waiting for someone in this thread to come up with a solution...
NYC offered one way plane tickets to fly the homeless out of NYC.
 
Old 05-12-2016, 09:47 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles (Native)
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NYC offered one way plane tickets to fly the homeless out of NYC.
Sounds like a good investment. Flights are cheap now too with the low oil prices.
 
Old 05-12-2016, 10:03 AM
 
Location: On the water.
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NYC offered one way plane tickets to fly the homeless out of NYC.
This is an incomplete representation of a program that is one of many such programs in the United States. Seems no matter how many times people, such as myself, such as 2Sleepy, and others, report accurately, with links to verify, the myth continues to build a momentum - like Donald Trump.

Every program I have heard about, in every city, turns out to follow a similar protocol for providing transportation out of their area. That is:
- the homeless must be from another city, for starters (and less than 25% of homeless studied anywhere are from cities other than the one where they are homeless - the homeless simply do not typically migrate out of the towns where they were last employed and housed, where they have contacts, families, and friends and know their way around).

- The homeless person must cooperate with the homeless assistance agency to establish a guarantee from someone - relative or friend or other sponsor - in their previous home city who will guarantee they have a place for the homeless person to live and will support that person's needs, food to eat, etc.

- Only with that support structure established and guaranteed will a ticket back home be prepared and issued.
 
Old 05-12-2016, 10:06 AM
 
Location: Sylmar, a part of Los Angeles
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In the Portland Oregon forum and I've been there the homeless is almost as bad as here and its cold and wet there. There are lazy good for nothing people everywhere.
In Bible times the homeless were disabled.
 
Old 05-12-2016, 10:09 AM
 
Location: On the water.
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In the Portland Oregon forum and I've been there the homeless is almost as bad as here and its cold and wet there. There are lazy good for nothing people everywhere.
In Bible times the homeless were disabled.
There were homeless in Biblical olden times? Who knew? I thought it was only since the libruls took over California? This isn't new? Oh my g.... Well, it's Obama's fault anyway. The Biblicals knew he was coming someday so they started going homeless back then to get in on all the benefits first in line ...
 
Old 05-12-2016, 10:15 AM
 
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Sounds like a good investment. Flights are cheap now too with the low oil prices.
Geezus, have you even looked up the NYC program? They don't just round up people and put them on planes.

"Project Reconnect, a city operated assist program under the Department of Homeless Service (DHS), provides one-way travel assistance to homeless by train, bus or air, if the applicants proved to have strong connections and means to support themselves outside of N.Y.C, according to the program's official brochure."

And it's not unique, communities all over the US have been doing this for decades. Vallejo had a group of local ministers 20 years ago who would work to reunify the homeless with their families and when they were successful they provided them with bus or plane tickets home.

Shipping people out will NOT solve the homeless problem because most of them are living on the streets in the same city where they last had a residential address.
 
Old 05-12-2016, 10:19 AM
 
Location: On the water.
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Geezus, have you even looked up the NYC program? They don't just round up people and put them on planes.

"Project Reconnect, a city operated assist program under the Department of Homeless Service (DHS), provides one-way travel assistance to homeless by train, bus or air, if the applicants proved to have strong connections and means to support themselves outside of N.Y.C, according to the program's official brochure."

And it's not unique, communities all over the US have been doing this for decades. Vallejo had a group of local ministers 20 years ago who would work to reunify the homeless with their families and when they were successful they provided them with bus or plane tickets home.

Shipping people out will NOT solve the homeless problem because most of them are living on the streets in the same city where they last had a residential address.
*sigh*

but ... but ... but ... I don't want that to be true so it can't be! *stamps feet and sits back down at computer to rebutt*
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