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To say LA is not known to be a glamorous city is like saying Nashville isn't known for country music..
LA has never had glamour but it is known for it's celebrities living there due to filming. I mean to even see it on TV, it is a DUMP. I'm sorry but there are plenty of places shown on TV in which are beautiful in every way. We all know the difference. Even back then when internet wasn't available.
Just as Nashville is known for it's Country Music, I agree... LA is known for it's celebrities yes, and crime, and graffitti. It's crowded and full of air pollution. Not pretty by far. And I believe most people know the filming there has decreased as has residency regarding celebs
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I'm not trying to present this as being some amazing thing by any means or a fantasy. When people hear LA, they think flashy cars, the hills, fashionable people, movie stars, aspiring actors, models, etc.
Actually you say you are not trying to present it as amazing or a fantasy yet you insert fantasy related adjectives-. "Flashy" cars, movie "stars", aspiring actors, "fashionable" people (whatever that means).
Now we all also know LAKE TAHOE is beautiful. Clean. Not only does it contain beauty and nature (minus the LA homeless population, & graffiti) the average income is higher than the rest of the US. Compare the cities. One giant parking lot compared to Paradise.
This is a destination you'd think the OP was describing. Btw, Much of Dallas is a dump too, it just isn't very pretty anywhere
To say LA is not known to be a glamorous city is like saying Nashville isn't known for country music. I'm not trying to present this as being some amazing thing by any means or a fantasy. When people hear LA, they think flashy cars, the hills, fashionable people, movie stars, aspiring actors, models, etc. That's reality in LA more than most places. LA is unique in the aspect it has to prove itself as being "regular" where other cities have a celebrity move there and it's a huge deal. There was a topic in the Chicago forum about Rosie O'Donnell moving there a few years back. That simply wouldn't get any mileage in LA.
Obviously, like any other large city, a lot of LA is rundown.
Dallas still has that old oil money feel to it, especially in the Park Cities.
For whatever reason, there's always an attempt to make LA sound worse than it actually is, and SF better than it actually is. You managed to put them both down at once, that's not seen very often.
yeah, usually. I get why, SF is compact, lots of culture within walking distance and its very picturesque in a way that just jumps out at you. LA is almost the complete opposite. It takes time to get to know LA which is why people probably hate LA for the first year or so when they first move to LA. It's just plain harder to get to know something that your are adverse to getting to know.
If you live in enough cities though, you'll realize that obviously no city is perfect and every city has its rundown areas. Obviously LA is bigger and the core isn't where most of the wealth is so you'll see a lot more of LA's run down nature if you live in the basin. Manhattan or DC or most European cities have all their wealth generally concentrated in one place, so a normal person won't even see poverty until they go to outlying areas or the suburbs. Out of sight out of mind.
But to answer the question, I don't think anybody cares if you are from LA or live in LA. The only people who generally care are people who have a grass is greener mentality. Which apparently this forum has a lot of lol. I currently live in New Orleans and most people generally have a negative opinion of Los Angeles so I just don't talk about the city too much anymore because its graining to explain to everyone the pros and cons every time. It's crazy too because people will say-- an now I'm venting-- xyz about LA but it's like yo, this placed is messed up too, people are just naturally going to avoid that topic though about their hometown/favorite city. I've lived in 4 different cities so, nothing really phases me anymore when it pros and cons--if you think like s***, your going to get s*** out of it.
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LA has never had glamour but it is known for it's celebrities living there due to filming. I mean to even see it on TV, it is a DUMP. I'm sorry but there are plenty of places shown on TV in which are beautiful in every way. We all know the difference. Even back then when internet wasn't available.
Just as Nashville is known for it's Country Music, I agree... LA is known for it's celebrities yes, and crime, and graffitti. It's crowded and full of air pollution. Not pretty by far. And I believe most people know the filming there has decreased as has residency regarding celebs
Actually you say you are not trying to present it as amazing or a fantasy yet you insert fantasy related adjectives-. "Flashy" cars, movie "stars", aspiring actors, "fashionable" people (whatever that means).
Now we all also know LAKE TAHOE is beautiful. Clean. Not only does it contain beauty and nature (minus the LA homeless population, & graffiti) the average income is higher than the rest of the US. Compare the cities. One giant parking lot compared to Paradise.
This is a destination you'd think the OP was describing. Btw, Much of Dallas is a dump too, it just isn't very pretty anywhere
I think to most people outside of Los Angeles. I think there is a sense of glamour that is associated with LA. That is often why people are usually disappointing with Hollywood/LA as a whole because LA is so gritty as well.
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Now we all also know LAKE TAHOE is beautiful. Clean. Not only does it contain beauty and nature (minus the LA homeless population, & graffiti) the average income is higher than the rest of the US. Compare the cities. One giant parking lot compared to Paradise[u].
I don't really like this assertion of comparing the 2nd largest city in the USA with Lake Tahoe that has a population of less than 100,000 in the metro area. Now we just comparing big city living with living in what is basically a resort town. Of course Lake Tahoe will have a higher average income because of the amount of retirees that live there less the amount of blue collar workers. I think it would be fairer to name cites with at least 1,000,000 people in the metro would be a better comparison. If we were to compare cities with LA with at least 800,000 people in the city proper, then I think a lot of the problems (not all) of the problems that you associate with Los Angeles could be found in most major cities.
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I don't really like this assertion of comparing the 2nd largest city in the USA with Lake Tahoe that has a population of less than 100,000 in the metro area. Now we just comparing big city living with living in which is basically a resort town. Of course Lake Tahoe will have a higher average income because of the amount of retirees that live there less the amount of blue collar workers. I think it would be fairer to name cites with at least 1,000,000 people in the metro would be a better comparison. If were to compare cities with LA with at least 800,000 people in the city proper, then I think a lot of the problems (not all) of the problems that you associate with Los Angeles could be found in most major cities.
Yes I agree but was just comparing it in the context of the OP. He wants to say such wonderful things about the perception of LA in which he really describes an area like Lake Tahoe. Known for those traits. We will have to overall agree to disagree about LA/Hollywood being perceived with some glamour. I suspect you are right, there is a certain percentage who show up to Hollywood for example and are disappointed. Maybe they never really saw what LA looks like on TV watching those tv shows & movies
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Yes I agree but was just comparing it in the context of the OP. He wants to say such wonderful things about LA in which he really describes an area like Lake Tahoe. We will have to agree to disagree about LA being perceived with some glamour. I suspect you are right, there is a certain percentage who show up to Hollywood for example and are disappointed. Maybe they never really saw what LA looks like on TV.
I think both of our opinions are right honestly. LA is run down in areas, there is massive homeless problem, there is traffic and it is expensive etc....
There is also great food, great hiking, beaches, incredible diversity, the neighborhoods are different and you can have an entirely different expeirence unlike some other places I've lived that you really can't get anywhere else.
the truth of the matter is, If your specific needs are not being met, then you need to either A) find it in LA B) Leave. That is just a fact in life we all have to deal with when it comes to cities not just in LA in general. It just upsets me that people cannot see places as they are and can only see what they dislike generally. I have never lived in a city that people did not like. I've lived in LA, ATL, NO, & DC . Although I only spent a year living in DC which is why I don't talk about it much. And every place had its pros and cons. I just wish that people would see the greatness of each place rather then reducing it to its worse. But that is just not human nature.
I think both of our opinions are right honestly. LA is run down in areas, there is massive homeless problem, there is traffic and it is expensive etc....
There is also great food, great hiking, beaches, incredible diversity, the neighborhoods are different and you can have an entirely different expeirence unlike some other places I've lived that you really can't get anywhere else.
the truth of the matter is, If your specific needs are not being met, then you need to either A) find it in LA B) Leave. That is just a fact in life we all have to deal with when it comes to cities not just in LA in general. It just upsets me that people cannot see places as they are and can only see what they dislike generally. I have never lived in a city that people did not like. I've lived in LA, ATL, NO, & DC . Although I only spent a year living in DC which is why I don't talk about it much. And every place had its pros and cons. I just wish that people would see the greatness of each place rather then reducing it to its worse. But that is just not human nature.
Until we inherited a house there recently, I'd not known anything positive about LA Area..From my media perception of it, it was an over crowded city with gangs and pollution yet some beaches on the outskirts. Probably a few nice areas to shop. And upscale areas since Celebrities lived there but still very city.
My perception really didn't change much except as you stated I did notice the diversity of the towns and many of the folks are very friendly. That really surprised me and made me realize if I had grew up there, maybe I'd never leave? The beaches are very disappointing compared to our closest beaches 1.5 hrs away though. Many more people seem to truly care about one another, that's a biggie.
The LA area house we inherited is in a dumpy area..., lots of crime and the neighbors do not get along. I am pretty sure it was the mailman who broke into the house, he kept pressuring me to let his homeless girlfriend live there. I said no I cannot do that. And wondered why she didn't live with him? I think he broke in to let her live there for a week and she stole some stuff off of the walls. A few different neighbors called her a Meth Addict. Well at least it is pretty close to the freeway and borders a much nicer town. So the schools are great where the kids would go and easy access to freeway and near the beach sort of (10 minutes). Oh and there was the first person who vandalized it but I think they didn't know my Uncle in law had passed. They thought he and his wife were still alive. She argued alot with the neighbors and got
a restraining order against one. One guy apologized for spraying vulgarities on the avacado tree in the back and vandalizing the cement.
He came over and tried to clean it up. Well after I had given him free avacados and he felt bad... then he confessed. They are a bit nutty down there imho, at least from my little corner of it. But many kind people too. Such is life
Until we inherited a house there recently, I'd not known anything positive about LA Area..From my media perception of it, it was an over crowded city with gangs and pollution yet some beaches on the outskirts. Probably a few nice areas to shop. And upscale areas since Celebrities lived there but still very city.
My perception really didn't change much except as you stated I did notice the diversity of the towns and many of the folks are very friendly. That really surprised me and made me realize if I had grew up there, maybe I'd never leave? The beaches are very disappointing compared to our closest beaches 1.5 hrs away though. Many more people seem to truly care about one another, that's a biggie.
The LA area house we inherited is in a dumpy area..., lots of crime and the neighbors do not get along. I am pretty sure it was the mailman who broke into the house, he kept pressuring me to let his homeless girlfriend live there. I said no I cannot do that. And wondered why she didn't live with him? I think he broke in to let her live there for a week and she stole some stuff off of the walls. A neighbor called her a Meth Addict.
At least it is pretty close to the freeway and borders a much nicer town. So the schools are great where the kids would go and easy access to freeway and near the beach sort of (10 minutes). That doesn't count the first person who vandalized it but I think they didn't know my Uncle in law had passed. They thought he and his wife (who was a bit nuts arguing with everyone) were still alive. Then after a guy apologized for spraying vulgarities on the avacado tree in the back and vandalizing the cement. He came over and tried to clean it up. I had given him free avacados and he felt bad then confessed. They are a bit nutty down there imho, at least from my little corner of it. Such is life
Where is this area if you don't mind me asking?
Edit: also, as someone who has lived in places without any water access. Appreciate that you have access to any beaches to go to at all.
LA has never had glamour but it is known for it's celebrities living there due to filming. I mean to even see it on TV, it is a DUMP. I'm sorry but there are plenty of places shown on TV in which are beautiful in every way. We all know the difference. Even back then when internet wasn't available.
Just as Nashville is known for it's Country Music, I agree... LA is known for it's celebrities yes, and crime, and graffitti. It's crowded and full of air pollution. Not pretty by far. And I believe most people know the filming there has decreased as has residency regarding celebs
Actually you say you are not trying to present it as amazing or a fantasy yet you insert fantasy related adjectives-. "Flashy" cars, movie "stars", aspiring actors, "fashionable" people (whatever that means).
Now we all also know LAKE TAHOE is beautiful. Clean. Not only does it contain beauty and nature (minus the LA homeless population, & graffiti) the average income is higher than the rest of the US. Compare the cities. One giant parking lot compared to Paradise.
This is a destination you'd think the OP was describing. Btw, Much of Dallas is a dump too, it just isn't very pretty anywhere
It is in Carson. I am not even sure if it made it to the MLS or not. Our Realtor is japaneeze and I cannot understand him. He was friends wtih my Uncle in Law who we inherited it from so i used him. He was the only guy on the street he trusted.
I can't post it here or I will get in trouble but it is 2bdrm/3 bath on a huge lot w/garage. It is listed at 399 but I want to take as little as 360 our Realtor hates that. So keeps the price at 399.
It is in an area where my Uncle in law had an old VW Van and it had damage due to the sea water. Near Figueroa St f I recall. It is West 214th street. We don't live there, we live in Meadow Vista CA
I've heard great things about Lake Tahoe. I really hope to see it one day.
Yes it's very pretty but I am used to it. So not sure if it is worth it to promote or not. If you like Outdoor Recreation AND Casinos, and SKIING, there is alot to do. It's difficult to find a cheap place to stay though. Even Truckee got so expensive just this last two years, a few of our friends did really well buying houses there and selling them just 5 years later.
There is supposedly a hostel being built in Truckee right now (about 30 min from Tahoe) The owner wants to make it a HIYA Hostel so if you wait 1-2 years, you could probably book a private room for a reasonable rate
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