Are the Valley, and West LA largely middle class and above (Los Angeles: low income, real estate)

[NJ Brazen_3133]

Are the San Fernando Valley, and West LA largely middle class and above?

What are the poorer sections of LA? All the notorious places like Compton and Inglewood, or Watts I guess are separate municipalities. Where is Watts and Crenshaw?

LA is kinda of a funny shaped city. NYC is too, but the water give it geographic features to help navigate it on the map. But when you say east or west LA, it is kind of hard for noobs to find a dividing line.

[nightlysparrow]

NYC is flat for the most part. The Valley is, well, a valley, and Los Angeles is a basin, and a mountain range separates them. Hills and canyons and other topographical features abound.

The Valley has poorer neighborhoods in the northeast and north central parts. LA, to the southeast and south central.

Here's a handy neighborhood map (not topographic) : http://samolive.com/wp-content/uploa...w_areaBlog.jpg

[NJ Brazen_3133]

Originally Posted by nightlysparrow

NYC is flat for the most part. The Valley is, well, a valley, and Los Angeles is a basin, and a mountain range separates them. Hills and canyons and other topographical features abound.

The Valley has poorer neighborhoods in the northeast and north central parts. LA, to the southeast and south central.

Here's a handy neighborhood map (not topographic) : http://samolive.com/wp-content/uploa...w_areaBlog.jpg

That is a nice map, but I cannot see the city borders.

And you are right NYC is flat, but I am referring to road maps. On road maps, you can still see water bodies. You cannot see the topography of LA on road maps. I guess some with feature the mountains, and parks though.

[owl6969]

Originally Posted by NJ Brazen_3133

Are the San Fernando Valley, and West LA largely middle class and above?

It can seem that way.. Certain people in these areas can make it feel like it.

[WizardOfRadical]

Depends on where in the Valley and where on the West Side

[Astral_Weeks]

Not sure if this link will work but it includes an analysis of concentrated poverty in the City of Los Angeles. Open the PDF and scroll down and you can see how poverty is distributed in the city. Bottom line: the biggest clusters of poverty in the city are in South LA and East LA.

http://www.lachamber.com/clientuploa...tedPoverty.pdf

The San Fernando Valley, though it has less large concentrated swaths of poverty, does have pockets of low income or poor areas, primarily the northeast valley. The most affluent parts of the valley are the southern portion of the valley running from Woodland Hills in the west all the way to Studio City in the east. These areas are quite affluent up in the hills as you move toward flatter terrain it leans more upper middle or middle class. The "valley floor" has a wide range of communities but I'd call most of them middle class areas with some that are near poor or working class like: Canoga Park, Reseda and Van Nuys.

The Westside is mostly upper middle class to very affluent these days.

[JohnG72]

Originally Posted by NJ Brazen_3133

That is a nice map, but I cannot see the city borders.
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That's because your misconceptions are quite large.

City of LA is from Chatsworth down to San Pedro. It's a huge city comprising many neighborhoods. Hollywood, Eagle Rock, Boyle Heights, KTown, West LA, Leimert Park, Sherman Oaks, Woodland Hills, Pacoima, Watts, it's all part of City of Los Angeles. As well as a whole lot of other places

No the SFV is not all middle class and above. West LA is rapidly approaching all upper middle class and above. People who bought there prior to 2000 are all on the verge of being millionaires by selling their homes.

Compton and inglewood are separate cities. Watts is not.

You can find all this information on lacity.org or lapdonline.

[genjy]

Originally Posted by nightlysparrow

NYC is flat for the most part. The Valley is, well, a valley, and Los Angeles is a basin, and a mountain range separates them. Hills and canyons and other topographical features abound.

The Valley has poorer neighborhoods in the northeast and north central parts. LA, to the southeast and south central.

Here's a handy neighborhood map (not topographic) : http://samolive.com/wp-content/uploa...w_areaBlog.jpg

Strange map. The large colored regions make enough sense (SFV, Basin/Westside, Verdugo/Pasadena, SGV, South Bay, ELA/SLA/Gateway/LB).

And it got the eastern SB and OC borders right, but somehow included a good chunk of Ventura County in there... weird.

[nightlysparrow]

Originally Posted by genjy

Strange map.

Well, it's a real estate map to sell by neighborhoods, like "Beverly Hills Post Office" which is a name made up by realtors

[Taiko]

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Originally Posted by NJ Brazen_3133

Are the San Fernando Valley, and West LA largely middle class and above?

What are the poorer sections of LA? All the notorious places like Compton and Inglewood, or Watts I guess are separate municipalities. Where is Watts and Crenshaw?

LA is kinda of a funny shaped city. NYC is too, but the water give it geographic features to help navigate it on the map. But when you say east or west LA, it is kind of hard for noobs to find a dividing line.

Nobody took on Crenshaw here is the wiki page. I would agree it is the center of the Black community, even if it actually stands at the west and northern borders of what is left Black majority areas in Los Angeles. A century ago the "center would have been Central Ave far to the east. When Joseph Wambaugh wrote The New Centurions, set in the early 1960s to just after the Watts Riots, he placed the center on Western Ave the next major north/south road to the east of Crenshaw.

On the southern part of Crenshaw you are on the city limit line east being the city, west being unincorporated Los Angeles County administered and it extends down into Inglewood and trough it to other South bay cities. North of Stocker as part of the City of Los Angeles the black center extends west until roughly La Cienega the second major north/south road west of Crenshaw. Basically a big state park, which was an empty lot when White flight occurred and Culver City which had residence restrictions stopped large scale black movement west of La Cienega