Those of you concerned w overdevelopment, etc. . (Los Angeles, Orange: for sale, rental)

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Originally Posted by JohnG72

You are aware that Los Angeles has a critical housing shortage, driving up prices and rents to levels that most middle income residents are at breaking points, aren't you? And that most Los Angeles residents gladly welcome denser buildings and neighborhoods as well as improved public transportation?

Actually, we are aware of the facts, the data and the reality we all have in our neighborhoods.

We have over a 12% vacancy rate. Garcetti is demolishing all of the RENT-CONTROL housing evicting thousands. While this is causing an affordable housing issue there is by no means any type of "crisis."

Los ANgeles has been crying 'housing crisis' since the 1940's. Read all the articles here: savevalleyvillage.com/history
which have no alignment with any population data.

Either way, there is a method to smart planning to accommodate any possible growth. However, what they are doing is not it.

When you say "most residents", this is interesting because the court system has been flooded the last 2 years with more lawsuits filed by "Los Angeles Residents" so much that our City Attorney has subbed them out to outside law firms. The fact that all this new construction sits vacant or ends up coming down when we have a slight wind is far from 'welcome'. But if you represent most Los Angeles residents, I am happy to review such data.

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Maybe this thread is not for you. As it is titled "for those of you concerned."

[jm1982]

Where did you get the 12% vacany rate figure ?

Seems like the official figure is 2.7% in LA

LA rents: Vacancy rate falls to 2.7 percent as area's rental market tightens further | 89.3 KPCC

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The Great L.A. Housing Scam
https://zwartztalk.wordpress.com/201...arcettism-2-0/

Los Angeles one of the top area Americans are ditching:
Los Angeles one of the top area Americans are ditching: Areas losing Americans but gaining people from outside the country. » Dr. Housing Bubble Blog

People Are Leaving L.A. Because it's Just Too Damn Expensive
People Are Leaving Los Angeles Over its Cost of Living | L.A. Weekly

California demographic shift: More people leaving than moving in
California demographic shift: More people leaving than moving in - latimes

The Exodus of People Moving Away From California Is Becoming an Avalanche
The Exodus of People Moving Away From California Is Becoming an Avalanche ? Charisma News


OR - you can go tto the Census.gov website and view the data for yourself.

Developers will sell you anything they can to make it look like they are doing us a favor - to build private development for them to profiteer.

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November 15, 2015 HCIDLA report
I am trying to upload it but its not letting me upload PDF's.

Short of the housing reports, I cant drive without seeing for rent and for lease signs on nearly every block from north hollywood to van nuys.
IN addition to that, the city is not a reputable source for data which is why we spend months verifying it and doing our own research, all which is backed up by evidence.

[Yermum]

12% vacancy rate for residential? Wtf is this nonsense.

https://lusk.usc.edu/casden/multifamily/report

4% 2016 projection

http://www.wsj.com/articles/apartmen...ate-1443756660

4.3% Q32015

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Again, if you read the data you will see it is not "nonsense."

There really is no argument here.
You are trained into thinking there will always be a housing crisis as this is what our city officials depend on - kickbacks and "favors" from developers.

Been outside lately? Been on Craigslist or Apartments.com? It is not difficult to locate the information.

I have posted a screenshot again indicating the "increase in housing units occurred in vacant units 44%. The result is that occupied housing units increased by only 3.4% since 2000."




The 12% vacancy rate data, again, is therein the the November 2015 HCIDLA report.

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Originally Posted by Yermum

12% vacancy rate for residential? Wtf is this nonsense.

https://lusk.usc.edu/casden/multifamily/report

4% 2016 projection

Apartment Market Boom Levels Out, Data Indicate - WSJ

4.3% Q32015

LOL. You're "report" was comprised by a developer.
The other link you provided is not Los Angeles specific.

Thankfully, the city does not use these statistics when concluding their research. Asking a developer to do housing statistical research will always result in their favor won't it.
It would be like telling the police the only other witness you have to a crime is your best friend or family member. Credibility is an issue isnt it.

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Originally Posted by SFVNC

LOL. You're "report" was comprised by a developer.
The other link you provided is not Los Angeles specific.

Thankfully, the city does not use these statistics when concluding their research. Asking a developer to do housing statistical research will always result in their favor won't it.
It would be like telling the police the only other witness you have to a crime is your best friend or family member. Credibility is an issue isnt it.

You are smoking crack. The U.S. Census puts the LA/OC metro area vacancy rate at 3.0 percent. Is the U.S. Census Bureau non-biased enough for you?

Housing Vacancies and Homeownership (CPS/HVS) - Quarterly Vacancy and Homeownership Rates by State and MSA - People and Households - U.S. Census Bureau

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Do you even know what NIMBY is? Do you even understand what it supposedly stands for? Because the issues at hand ARE CITYWIDE and NOT just in one or two people's backyard. There are a few thousand communities right now who have all connected with each other based on the fact that we are experiencing it everywhere. So your nimby identification doesn't apply does it. Anyone working so hard at trying to justify the demolition of existing housing usually turns out to be a developer.
As usual, the misinformed and uneducated try and have the loudest voice and attempt to take over the thread, by passing around more misleading and inaccurate information.

People - read the data yourselves. Make your own decision on the matter. But at the very least, do it off of reputable data and check your sources.

There is a reason the courts are overflowed with lawsuits filed by the public. There is a reason they ARE ALL WINNING.
There is a reason the Planning Department rubber-stamp's every single project no matter how out of compliance it is. Spot zoning, variances, waivers, etc...
There is a reason all of this has hit the city like a truck since Garcetti has been in office. Since his time in office homelessness has increased 12%.

Here is a good one written by a local attorney who has sued the city on a regular basis for these housing scams, as well as all the city councilmembers.

https://zwartztalk.wordpress.com/201...arcettism-2-0/