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Old 06-20-2016, 02:04 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles (Native)
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L.A. apartment owners charged with evicting tenants, then renting their units via Airbnb - LA Times


I wonder if L.A's next move will be to basically ban rentals on Airbnb, which NYC recently did.
People won't be able to advetise a day for less than 30 days , which I would think would be 99% of the stays on Airbnb on L.A or NYC

It's About To Be Illegal To Advertise Entire Apartments On Airbnb: Gothamist
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Old 06-20-2016, 02:35 PM
 
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It all comes down to who's getting paid; allocation of resources and wealth.
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Old 06-20-2016, 02:36 PM
 
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Geez poor tenants. Greed knows no bounds.
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Old 06-20-2016, 02:51 PM
 
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Obviously, it is illegal to evict a tenant just to put the unit on Air BnB. However, under LA rent control, should a tenant voluntarily vacate, the owner is free to re-rent at any price or leave it empty if he wants. I don't see the problem with putting voluntarily vacated units on Air BnB. as long as the owner has followed the rent control laws, the building does belong to him, after all. As for the lack of affordable housing, that's not an individual owner's responsibility.
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Old 06-20-2016, 03:01 PM
 
Location: Downtown Los Angeles, CA
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The NY senate is oblivious to the procedures of AirBnB, making their decision foolish and embarrassing. Their main concern - an evolving door of occupants - can be addressed and IS CURRENTLY being addressed by amendments to apartment/HOA bylaws. My condo HOA received authority from it's owners to make the amendment, and my apartment had me sign an extra document outlawing such rental activity.
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Old 06-20-2016, 03:11 PM
 
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The NY senate is oblivious to the procedures of AirBnB, making their decision foolish and embarrassing. Their main concern - an evolving door of occupants - can be addressed and IS CURRENTLY being addressed by amendments to apartment/HOA bylaws. My condo HOA received authority from it's owners to make the amendment, and my apartment had me sign an extra document outlawing such rental activity.
Yeah I could see the downside of Airbnb or short term rentals
but on the other hand one could point to the huge economic benefit of airbnb visitors to a city like NYC or anywhere really.
Tourist/visitors are known to spend a lot more per day in the local economy versus locals.
They are going out to eat, watching shows, shopping. They are spending a lot of money.

It will be interesting to see the effect to the local economy without people being able to use Airbnb.

In NYC it's a different story of course since people are renting out condos or apartment units versus single family homes.

In L.A there are a lot of single family homes , but of course single family homes don't fall under rent control .

If they banned apartment units from being rented out on Airbnb in L.A...rents on single family houses for rent on Airbnb would probably rise due to demand.
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Old 06-20-2016, 03:20 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles (Native)
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Obviously, it is illegal to evict a tenant just to put the unit on Air BnB. However, under LA rent control, should a tenant voluntarily vacate, the owner is free to re-rent at any price or leave it empty if he wants. I don't see the problem with putting voluntarily vacated units on Air BnB. as long as the owner has followed the rent control laws, the building does belong to him, after all. As for the lack of affordable housing, that's not an individual owner's responsibility.
Personally I think rent control should just be done away with.
It's gotten to the point where some rent control tenants think they can stay forever and ever.

I was watching this documentary about gentrification in San Francisco due to the high tech industry.
There were these tenants talking about how the greedy landlords want to kick them out to make room for the rich white techies.
The one young guy said his family got a letter in the mail telling them they would have a year to move and it was a check for thousands of dollars and he just laughed about it saying it was an insult.

But in reality, if the tables were turned, would those same people really keep someone in a property they owned for 1/2 the market rent ?

If they had a car to sell or another item would they sell it to someone for 1/2 the market price just to cut them some slack? no way!
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Old 06-20-2016, 03:23 PM
 
Location: Downtown Los Angeles, CA
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Yeah I could see the downside of Airbnb or short term rentals
but on the other hand one could point to the huge economic benefit of airbnb visitors to a city like NYC or anywhere really.
Tourist/visitors are known to spend a lot more per day in the local economy versus locals.
They are going out to eat, watching shows, shopping. They are spending a lot of money.
Don't get me wrong, I love AirBnB...I just have a NIMB approach to it (Not In My Building) .

Before moving to LA, I exclusively AirBnb'd while visiting. The money I saved by not going to a hotel was definitely spent out on the town. The hosts would usually share why they chose to AirBnb, and the answer was almost always the same: "Just looking to make ends meet". An extra $500/mo from just three nights out of the month? You can't blame 'em.
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Old 06-20-2016, 03:52 PM
 
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Don't get me wrong, I love AirBnB...I just have a NIMB approach to it (Not In My Building) .

Before moving to LA, I exclusively AirBnb'd while visiting. The money I saved by not going to a hotel was definitely spent out on the town. The hosts would usually share why they chose to AirBnb, and the answer was almost always the same: "Just looking to make ends meet". An extra $500/mo from just three nights out of the month? You can't blame 'em.
Yeah I hear you. I've actually never rented a place on Airbnb before. I could see other tenants in a building being pissed about it if the people are loud or annoying, even if not I could see people getting annoyed with random people coming in and out of the building.

I think it would be best if landlords were upfront about it with the other tenants somehow.
Actually having some units in a building available on a short term basis could be nice for visiting relatives or friends.
Lot's of people might have a place that is too small to have guests stay over ..or they don't really want guests staying in their unit so being able to rent a unit in the same building..maybe at a discount.. short term could be a benefit and get tenants to be on board with the idea versus it being some kind of hush hush type thing.
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Old 06-20-2016, 04:43 PM
 
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L.A. apartment owners charged with evicting tenants, then renting their units via Airbnb - LA Times


I wonder if L.A's next move will be to basically ban rentals on Airbnb, which NYC recently did.
People won't be able to advetise a day for less than 30 days , which I would think would be 99% of the stays on Airbnb on L.A or NYC

It's About To Be Illegal To Advertise Entire Apartments On Airbnb: Gothamist
If so, it would be a shame.

The 2 cities are completely different. NYC has urban density, extensive mass transit, and is pedestrian friendly. It's just easier to navigate; I also never have problem finding a hotel room there, which is saying something. I've never been tempted to book on Airbnb there because it's just unnecessary.

In LA, however, the number of good (clean affordable) hotels isn't adequate for the number of tourists who flock there. A car rental is mandatory. And many an unsuspecting visitor has lost whole days on the freeway because they booked a great hotel deal in Burbank, but wanted to (for example) spend time Malibu and the Getty and/or the 3rd St. Promenade.

I book Airbnb almost exclusively when I visit friends and family in LA because I haaaaaate the hotel options that are convenient to the east side.
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