Do people understand what walk ability means? (Riverside, San Bernardino: home, neighborhoods)

[JohnG72]

Seems to me that there's been some confusion.

Walk ability means how close you are to shops, restaurants etc.

It does not mean how walkable your neighborhood is to take an evening stroll or walking Fido.

So for instance, some of the more walkable neighborhoods in LA area are Old Town Pasadena, Downtown LA, North of Montana in Santa Monica, Belmont Shores. All these areas have residences very close to a large number of restaurants and stores.

Most traditionally suburban neighborhoods have little walk ability. You almost always will need a car to get to shops and restaurants and entertainment options. Examples of traditional suburbs are West Covina, north ridge, Valencia, Upland, etc. These cities have few, if any, walkable neighborhoods.

[2Easy]

Originally Posted by JohnG72

Seems to me that there's been some confusion.

Walk ability means how close you are to shops, restaurants etc.

It does not mean how walkable your neighborhood is to take an evening stroll or walking Fido.

So for instance, some of the more walkable neighborhoods in LA area are Old Town Pasadena, Downtown LA, North of Montana in Santa Monica, Belmont Shores. All these areas have residences very close to a large number of restaurants and stores.

Most traditionally suburban neighborhoods have little walk ability. You almost always will need a car to get to shops and restaurants and entertainment options. Examples of traditional suburbs are West Covina, north ridge, Valencia, Upland, etc. These cities have few, if any, walkable neighborhoods.

So you don't consider how difficult or easy it is to walk to be a factor in walkability? Plenty of neighborhoods outside california are close to destinations but those destinations aren't easy to access for a variety of reasons. For example lack of sidewalks or lack of places to even cross the street. To me those types of issues factor into walkability big time.

[BGS91762]

Originally Posted by JohnG72

Seems to me that there's been some confusion.

Walk ability means how close you are to shops, restaurants etc.

It does not mean how walkable your neighborhood is to take an evening stroll or walking Fido.

So for instance, some of the more walkable neighborhoods in LA area are Old Town Pasadena, Downtown LA, North of Montana in Santa Monica, Belmont Shores. All these areas have residences very close to a large number of restaurants and stores.

Most traditionally suburban neighborhoods have little walk ability. You almost always will need a car to get to shops and restaurants and entertainment options. Examples of traditional suburbs are West Covina, north ridge, Valencia, Upland, etc. These cities have few, if any, walkable neighborhoods.

I live in Upland which has many walkable neighborhoods. It is an older city which is not typical suburbia.

[ryanms3030]

Did someone ask for a definition of walkability and I missed it?

[UB50]

Originally Posted by JohnG72

Most traditionally suburban neighborhoods have little walk ability. You almost always will need a car to get to shops and restaurants and entertainment options. Examples of traditional suburbs are West Covina, north ridge, Valencia, Upland, etc. These cities have few, if any, walkable neighborhoods.

Upland has an Old Town area and it's walkable. West Covina and Northridge both have walkable neighborhoods. It just depends on where you live. Upland and West Covina aren't super-new suburbs.

Valencia -- yeah. Valencia isn't that walkable.

[I Love Buildings]

Downtown Riverside and Downtown San Bernardino both have great walkability as well. Public transportation to LA, historic downtowns, and dense development for U.S standards outside the East Coast.

Palm Springs thrives on holidays like this coming up.

[JustMike77]

I live in a very walkable area, Warner Center in Woodland Hills. Three malls & all kinds of shops and restaurants within walking distance. I can be at the door of the AMC theater in 9 minutes walking.

[CA4Now]

Originally Posted by 2Easy

So you don't consider how difficult or easy it is to walk to be a factor in walkability? Plenty of neighborhoods outside california are close to destinations but those destinations aren't easy to access for a variety of reasons. For example lack of sidewalks or lack of places to even cross the street. To me those types of issues factor into walkability big time.

Agreed.

"Truly walkable communities...include many attributes: a mix of uses, frequent street connections and pedestrian links, timeless ways of designing and placing buildings. They create desirable places to spend time in, to meet others."
Walkable Communities

[seain dublin]

Originally Posted by JohnG72

Seems to me that there's been some confusion.

Walk ability means how close you are to shops, restaurants etc.

It does not mean how walkable your neighborhood is to take an evening stroll or walking Fido.

So for instance, some of the more walkable neighborhoods in LA area are Old Town Pasadena, Downtown LA, North of Montana in Santa Monica, Belmont Shores. All these areas have residences very close to a large number of restaurants and stores.

Most traditionally suburban neighborhoods have little walk ability. You almost always will need a car to get to shops and restaurants and entertainment options. Examples of traditional suburbs are West Covina, north ridge, Valencia, Upland, etc. These cities have few, if any, walkable neighborhoods.

You make it more confusing when you make "walkability" two words, it's one.

You can go to NY and Chicago and you will find suburbs where you also need a car to drive to shops and restaurants, and areas that you don't.

Just like here.

[SpaceMonkyPunks]

Originally Posted by seain dublin

You make it more confusing when you make "walkability" two words, it's one.

THANK YOU this was bothering me, haha.

IMO I think a lot of you (including OP) still have the wrong idea..."walkability" doesn't just mean walkable access to restaurants and entertainment, as many of you have mentioned. It means walkable for most every aspect of daily life. Groceries, post office, home goods/needs, public spaces, and access to public transit to get to work (Unfortunately, in LA that one is often more dependent on your office location than your living location) It means relying on cars as little as possible.