Who will stand up to the anti gentrification nutjobs intimidating decent small business in L.A? (Oakland: sale, transfer)

[TheMandarin]

Originally Posted by LuvSouthOC

Cool. I'm coming up to B Heights later in August when I stay DT at the Grand. When traffic is light, and after I have gone to the Broad, I'll hit weird wave before my dinner at Lawry's...priorities

I'm going to Lawry's on the 20th. Went to school with the Frank kids, but I still have to pay full price =[

[majoun]

Originally Posted by GSR13

Rents are increasing across the country. Sure, current residents of a gentrifying area can move to a cheaper state, but that is expensive and easier said than done, and often people can't move due to family, job, or health issues.

America isn't a pure capitalist system, otherwise you wouldn't have anti-trust laws in place (for example). But this isn't a capitalism vs socialism issue, it's a nationalism vs globalism issue.

With the current bubble, it's foreign investment that is driving the conditions that make people domestically want to get into property flipping/owning in the first place. The exorbitant demand for property is obviously what's driving the unaffordability of the housing market. If you had proper protectionist policies in place, like what Vancouver has done (15% tax on foreign property investors), you'd see a substantial decline in home prices, although they'd still be somewhat overpriced due to low interest rate

You could not have those policies like Vancouver, Melbourne, and Washington, DC have without getting rid of Prop 13, which is a separate issue. Certainly 13 makes California more attractive to foreign investors as well as to immigrants. At least, however, you do acknowledge that higher property taxes drive prices down, something that many here deny.

I get the feeling reading your posts that you'd want changes not just on a state and local level but on a national level that would not be possible unless someone like Bernie Sanders was president, and certainly would not be possible under the current POTUS especially with his career background before running for office.

[majoun]

Originally Posted by GSR13

Do you really think the Founding Fathers would approve of unmitigated property investment by foreign sources?

Are protective tariffs communism?

Hint: both answers are the same

Hamilton didn't represent the entire Founding Fathers. Under British rule investment by non-UK nations and trade with non-UK nations was strictly restricted. Hamilton held the views you mention on foreign investment, but Hamilton didn't represent all of the Founders.

[LuvSouthOC]

Originally Posted by TheMandarin

I'm going to Lawry's on the 20th. Went to school with the Frank kids, but I still have to pay full price =[

I might run into you. I'm the guy who is ordering what I shouldn't: that prime rib.

Make sure to stop by Weird Wave to support the business.

[TheMandarin]

Originally Posted by LuvSouthOC

I might run into you. I'm the guy who is ordering what I shouldn't: that prime rib.

Make sure to stop by Weird Wave to support the business.

Boyle Heights is not that close to the 405 though...

[Miss Pip]

Originally Posted by Exitus Acta Probat

Why are the FBI and National Guard not on the scene, protecting the civil rights of the coffee shop owners from the hate groups who are trying to close down the coffee shop?

And look at all the further racism on the Defend Boyle Heights FB page:

https://www.facebook.com/defendboyleheights

How is this one racist? Should we not replace the system of white supremacy with justice?

Isn't it racist of you to want to keep the system of white supremacy where non-whites suffer?

[LuvSouthOC]

Originally Posted by Miss Pip

How is this one racist? Should we not replace the system of white supremacy with justice?

Isn't it racist of you to want to keep the system of white supremacy where non-whites suffer?

Not that it should matter, since identity politics shouldn't play into where people open businesses, unless of course, the observer is himself/herself a racist, but in this case, at least of one of the co-owners isn't even white. The idea that white supremacy is at play is completely fallacious, and yes, it was right to point it out as being racist to even bring up the owners' races and then decry racism. The real racist in the room is often the one decrying another for so-called "racism".

[jm1982]

Originally Posted by LuvSouthOC

Not that it should matter, since identity politics shouldn't play into where people open businesses, unless of course, the observer is himself/herself a racist, but in this case, at least of one of the co-owners isn't even white. The idea that white supremacy is at play is completely fallacious, and yes, it was right to point it out as being racist to even bring up the owners' races and then decry racism. The real racist in the room is often the one decrying another for so-called "racism".

True and I had read one of the white co-owners live in a rented room in West Adams .

The Hispanic owner put up $100,000 of his own money I read . He is El Salvadoran .
I'm guessing most of the real estate in Boyle Heights is likely owned by Hispanics too if we want to talk about race .

All this white privilege stuff is nonsense pushed by SJWs and leftist college profs and regurgitated by rags like HuffPost etc.

How much supremacy can whites have if they can't even open a little coffee shop in peace?

This identity politics nonsense needs to stop .

[LuvSouthOC]

It won't stop until they arouse the anger of many which they know is all too predictable. They'll slowly arouse the ire that Rudyard Kipling described in, "When the Saxon Began to Hate."

Pity. This won't take the country anywhere good. All people must be able to expect fair treatment.

[mtnbkr5]

Originally Posted by MItoBH

Wow, those people in Boyle Heights are in denial about the inevitable. I'm sorry that the coffee shop owners are being threatened and intimated by the locals, but I hope they can stand their ground.

No good deed goes unpunished. To hell with these ingrates and bigots. Move to a better place.