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Old 01-06-2018, 03:07 PM
 
Location: Laguna Niguel, Orange County CA
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Riiiight, but getting such a label by crazy Swedes because one is critical of the Religion of Peace absolutely does not render one a "racist" or "extremist". Just like in the Nederlands where black Somali Ayaan Hirsi Ali was labeled a right wing extremist for "smearing" the Religion of Peace. Just like the great gay man, Pim Fortuyn, also critical of the Religion of Peace, was also labeled the same.

We see it over and over in Europe. Sweden is just the latest victim of this madness.


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Old 01-06-2018, 03:16 PM
 
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Riiiight, but getting such a label by crazy Swedes because one is critical of the Religion of Peace absolutely does not render one a "racist". Just like in the Nederlands where black Somali Ayaan Hirsi Ali was labeled a right wing extremist for "smearing" the Religion of Peace. Just like the great gay man, Pim Fortuyn, also critical of the Religion of Peace, was also labeled the same.
We see it over and over in Europe. Sweden is just the latest victim of this madness.
Did you run out of youtube videos showing the "chaos" in Sweden so now you post a 51 minute long story about some RWNJ in the Netherlands who was assassinated?

What exactly does that have to do with Sweden or with the topic of this thread
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Old 01-06-2018, 03:18 PM
 
Location: Laguna Niguel, Orange County CA
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Did you run out of youtube videos showing the "chaos" in Sweden so now you post a 51 minute long story about some RWNJ in the Netherlands who was assassinated?

What exactly does that have to do with Sweden or with the topic of this thread
So to you Pim Fortuyn was a right wing nut job? There you go. Was Theo Van Gogh a "RWNJ" too? How about Ayaan Hirsi Ali? Do you even know who these people were?
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Old 01-06-2018, 03:24 PM
 
Location: Ca expat loving Idaho
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You do understand where I live, right?
Are you really gonna tell me what it´s like here?
There are no no go zones.
Those dangerous areas means they are sending an extra police patrol when something has happened. It also means police escorts ambulance and fire department on their calls. Those areas are in large parts being controlled by mafia-like gangs that wants to be left alone with their drug trade. There are also swedish born, non muslims members in those gangs. They do what they do because they are criminals, not because they belong to a certain religion.
You asked where the areas are and I answered. What your describing sounds like dangerous areas to me. I live in so cal and we have dangerous areas I can't walk alone at night too. Why can't Swedes admit their country isn't perfect??
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Old 01-06-2018, 03:39 PM
 
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Did you run out of youtube videos showing the "chaos" in Sweden so now you post a 51 minute long story about some RWNJ in the Netherlands who was assassinated?

What exactly does that have to do with Sweden or with the topic of this thread
Fortuyn was not a right winger. In America he'd be considered a centrist, or at least would have been considered a centrist until recently. Then again, the only Dutch political parties that would be considered right wing by US standards would be Christian Union and SGP. Even the PVV would be considered left of center in the US except on the immigration issue.

Fortuyn actually denounced the Front National in France and Freedom Party in Austria and refused to make alliances with them, identifying more with the British Tories and Forza Italia.

What Fortuyn was, was a fighter for democracy and human rights in Europe and an opponent of all forms of intolerance, and because he saw Islamists as being the biggest threat to Dutch tolerance and civil liberties, he was pilloried. Ayaan Hirsi Ali is also a fighter for human rights and civil liberties, and an old fashioned liberal, yet as US liberals have cozied up to hatemongers like Linda Sarsour they castigate Ali as a bigot unfairly.

As for Sweden: I don't know about Ingrid Carlqvist other than seeing her on TV. The Swedish Democratic Party that she is affiliated with has racist and neofascist roots but is no longer a neofascist party, although certainly right wing. I'll leave those who know more about Sweden to decide as to whether she is actually a bigot or not.
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Old 01-06-2018, 03:42 PM
 
Location: Laguna Niguel, Orange County CA
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Fortuyn was not a right winger. In America he'd be considered a centrist, or at least would have been considered a centrist until recently. Then again, the only Dutch political parties that would be considered right wing by US standards would be Christian Union and SGP. Even the PVV would be considered left of center in the US except on the immigration issue.

Fortuyn actually denounced the Front National in France and Freedom Party in Austria and refused to make alliances with them, identifying more with the British Tories and Forza Italia.

What Fortuyn was, was a fighter for democracy and human rights in Europe and an opponent of all forms of intolerance, and because he saw Islamists as being the biggest threat to Dutch tolerance and civil liberties, he was pilloried. Ayaan Hirsi Ali is also a fighter for human rights and civil liberties, and an old fashioned liberal, yet as US liberals have cozied up to hatemongers like Linda Sarsour they castigate Ali as a bigot unfairly.

As for Sweden: I don't know about Ingrid Carlqvist other than seeing her on TV. The Swedish Democratic Party that she is affiliated with has racist and neofascist roots but is no longer a neofascist party, although certainly right wing. I'll leave those who know more about Sweden to decide as to whether she is actually a bigot or not.
^This!
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Old 01-06-2018, 04:23 PM
 
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So to you Pim Fortuyn was a right wing nut job? There you go. Was Theo Van Gogh a "RWNJ" too? How about Ayaan Hirsi Ali? Do you even know who these people were?
I think it because that's exactly what he was. I'm not going to stray further down the rabbit hole with you and get dinged for thread hijacking, so if you want to discuss the other people you named start a new thread.
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Old 01-06-2018, 06:42 PM
 
Location: West Los Angeles and Rancho Palos Verdes
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You do understand where I live, right?
Are you really gonna tell me what it´s like here?
There are no no go zones.
Those dangerous areas means they are sending an extra police patrol when something has happened. It also means police escorts ambulance and fire department on their calls. Those areas are in large parts being controlled by mafia-like gangs that wants to be left alone with their drug trade. There are also swedish born, non muslims members in those gangs. They do what they do because they are criminals, not because they belong to a certain religion.
I guess you're one of the people at whom this is directed:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLUTe9ZQpYk
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Old 01-06-2018, 06:55 PM
 
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I guess you're one of the people at whom this is directed:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLUTe9ZQpYk
Well that was an epic fail, those aren't Muslims nor are they from a Muslim Country. They are Right wing Swedes who were pushing their anti Muslim agenda, driving through the neighborhood with a loudspeaker showing residents how awful it would be to live near a Mosque.
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Old 01-06-2018, 07:05 PM
 
Location: Laguna Niguel, Orange County CA
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These lovely pluralistic Swedish Moslems cannot take offense of any kind, much less tolerating gay people. Did everyone forget the movie shown by Lars Vilks? I hope someone can explain to me how integration is going in Sweden.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbpyk1uHNWY
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