Downtown Los Angeles, Christmas Day 2017 (licensed, association, cars)

[Tool Shed]

You know you are good at politics when people’s surroundings literally resemble third world countries and the voters are like, yeah this is fine.

[Patrolman]

Originally Posted by LuvSouthOC

1) Draft legislation to permit the police to dispossess the homeless of their property if left abandoned.
2) Enact a policy that encourages the homeless to return to their places of origin and pay their return tickets.
3) Consider a system to permit the billing of family members to encourage families to take care of their own.
4) Reinstate our old mental health system.

1. Ask the ACLU about that.
2. What if they refuse? What are they going to use for money?
3. What if they have no family? What if the family refuses to accept them?
4. Refer to #1.

Everyone is beating on the LAPD for not doing their job and removing the homeless off the streets. I patrolled Skid Row for years. You arrest someone for loitering, which is a low level misdemeanor, and they are booked and released within a matter of hours. Jails are overcrowded and there just isn't enough room to house them all. I've arrested homeless individuals and they were back on the street before my shift was over. There's just no easy answer.

[man4857]

Originally Posted by LuvSouthOC

Broken record alert.

Some issues are not fixable by the government.

All the issues of society today are caused by people (and therefore government since you elect them!). What are you talking about lol?

Uncle Sam makes laws, States make laws, County/City makes laws, people like you and me make economic decisions everyday that adds up and those affect society as a whole. To say issues aren't fixable by the government is just flat out wrong. Government can fix it, the only question is, will the people give them enough power to fix it. (And hopefully not abuse that power).

[kettlepot]

Originally Posted by Chicano3000X

Conservatives shut down the mental hospitals, decomocrats kept up the damage. Having a government ruled by one mentality could be the issue no? Maybe two sides keep each other in check.

Actually, it was the ACLU and their inmate rights campaigns of the 1960s which shut down the mental hospitals. Well, not so much that they shut them down, but they emptied them out.

[Please see California Girl's Post #32 - should have read EVERY post before replying. It's just that this misinformation above has been cycling through the ether for 30 years]

[majoun]

Originally Posted by Exitus Acta Probat

I'm absolutely certain. It was an LAPD black & white staking out an intersection a mile east of SM. They also do the same thing in Brentwood occasionally.

It's been years since SMPD had blue and white cars to distinguish them from LAPD. They've had the same colors for a long time. I'm pretty sure it was SMPD giving tickets in that area (which is right on the border) not LAPD, who have virtually stopped giving tickets.

[majoun]

Originally Posted by jm1982

Problem is a lot of Los Angelenos don't want to get rid of them because they don't even know who they are or don't vote .

Voter turnout is very low in L.A

Garcetti will be in for another 5 years so there's that too.. although he seems more focused on running for President in 2020 these days .

The flip side of that is that the minimum required signatures for a recall is lower because of low voter turnout.

Of course the problem with that is getting people to show up at the polls.

The wealthy white folks of L.A. are always criticizing Southern and Midwestern states for suppressing voter turnout and they do the same exact thing here.

[majoun]

Originally Posted by kettlepot

Actually, it was the ACLU and their inmate rights campaigns of the 1960s which shut down the mental hospitals. Well, not so much that they shut them down, but they emptied them out.

[Please see California Girl's Post #32 - should have read EVERY post before replying. It's just that this misinformation above has been cycling through the ether for 30 years]

It wasn't just liberal groups like the ACLU. Conservatives favored shutting down the hospitals in order to reduce state spending and reduce the burden to the taxpayer. The Lanterman-Petris Act was written by a conservative Republican, Frank Lanterman (R-La Canada Flintridge), and a liberal Democrat, Nick Petris (D-Oakland). It had full bipartisan support and little organized opposition. Anyone who was governor of CA at the time would have signed it as Reagan did (whether Pat Brown had won a 3rd term, George Christopher had defeated Reagan in the primary and Brown in the general, or Sam Yorty had defeated Brown in the primary and either Reagan or Christopher in the general)

[majoun]

Originally Posted by jm1982

Get the poor tax paying sap leaving his apartment he pays half his income for while on the way to his miserable job .

It's a shame because they could actually do something regarding the problem homeless yet they don't because of orders from Beck and Garcetti .

They wouldn't no matter who was in charge, unless you increased police numbers dramatically.

[green_mariner]

Originally Posted by Exitus Acta Probat

"You're doin' a heck of a job, Eric."


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8fsfwo6R-Y

That's Skid Row. Every major city in the USA has its own version of Skid Row. In Atlanta it stretches from MLK Drive to Fulton Industrial Boulevard.

[JohnG72]

Originally Posted by green_mariner

That's Skid Row. Every major city in the USA has its own version of Skid Row. In Atlanta it stretches from MLK Drive to Fulton Industrial Boulevard.

Last night I stopped at a 7-11 on Ventura Bl in Sherman Oaks. There were 3 homeless people there to the point my wife was scared to go in.

For those that don’t know, that area is basically the most upscale nightlife area of the SFV.

The homeless are everywhere in City of Los Angeles. The encampments are EVERYWHERE. It’s not just skid row.

Thanks Eric Garcetti.