Gov. Brown: Courts *Must* Let California Slash its Public-Sector Pensions (insurance, cost of)

[CaliRestoration]

Originally Posted by Tulemutt

You are correct: the market doesn't want ACA ... it wants universal coverage.

No it doesn't.

No market economy has ever successfully launched a "universal healthcare" product.

[Tulemutt]

Originally Posted by CaliRestoration

No it doesn't.

No market economy has ever successfully launched a "universal healthcare" product.

As usual, you have jumped tracks here.

“The market” is consumers in this case. And consumers don't launch ... they consume / use.

Further, the “market economy” is precisely the force that causes universal healthcare to become necessary - as it is private, for-profit health care excess that is making health care unaffordable for the general population. It is undermining itself. Killing its own goose that lays its golden eggs.

[Tulemutt]

Originally Posted by CaliRestoration

Amazon HQ2 ain't landing in California, I would bet $10,000 on that right now. Just doesn't make financial sense.
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Wherever it lands, it won't be landing in 49 other states, either.

Originally Posted by CaliRestoration

, trust me.

Lmao ...

[CaliRestoration]

Originally Posted by Tulemutt

As usual, you have jumped tracks here.

“The market” is consumers in this case. And consumers don't launch ... they consume / use.

A market is just not "consumers", that's literally only the demand side.

See this?



Anyone can "demand a Ferrari", but who will "supply" it to them and at what cost? That's a market economy in a nutshell.

No market economy has never ever produced a universal healthcare product because the market does not want it. You can only produce such a product by government intervention.

Further, the “market economy” is precisely the force that causes universal healthcare to become necessary - as it is private, for-profit health care excess that is making health care unaffordable for the general population. It is undermining itself. Killing its own goose that lays its golden eggs.

Golden eggs? What are you talking about? What does that even mean?



The "general population". Who is that? Why is it unaffordable?

I have excellent healthcare and love my healthcare. It is not impacting me financially at all, it's very affordable.

[CaliRestoration]

Originally Posted by Tulemutt

Wherever it lands, it won't be landing in 49 other states, either.

Lmao ...

It especially won't be landing in California due to its taxation. Companies are relocating their HQs out of California if it's feasible for them.

[Vic Romano]

Originally Posted by wilshire

Good. You like your (or your parents) CA pension and you don't want anything done to it. I get it.

You're really dense. Show me any of my posts where I said I didn't want anything done.

You on the other hand have avoided telling us the source of your numbers. Where does the $16k average for Texas come from? Where does the $80k figure for CA come from? Are they measured the same way? I showed you the source of my information.

My father died at 63 before he retired. So you can tell me he helped the CA pension situation...

[ctr88]

I remember a while back reading about a CA librarian retiring with $250k/yr for LIFE pension. And that $250k is adjusted for inflation. AND zero deductible special health care for LIFE paid for by the tax payers. A librarian folks. But the CA voting public is so deeply indoctrinated with liberal rhetoric and propaganda they will keep voting in people to office that will never change this status quo. The indoctrination is so powerful, it overpowers the fact they the people, the voters, are getting their pockets picked.

It's the same thing with a lot of the losers we elect for congress in this country. They get massive tax payer funded guaranteed pensions for life. And SPECIAL zero deductible health care for life (not Obama Care mind you....noooo that's only for the peasants). Yet they just bicker and bicker like complete losers they are and never get anything done. And many are in the pockets of corporate lobbyists (especially for the health care industry that robs Americans blind, etc...) What do they care about regular people who have to provide for their own health care and retirements? When they are taken care of to retire in the lap of luxury? They are laughing all the way to the bank.

[expatCA]

Originally Posted by ctr88

I remember a while back reading about a CA librarian retiring with $250k/yr for LIFE pension. And that $250k is adjusted for inflation. AND zero deductible special health care for LIFE paid for by the tax payers. A librarian folks. But the CA voting public is so deeply indoctrinated with liberal rhetoric and propaganda they will keep voting in people to office that will never change this status quo. The indoctrination is so powerful, it overpowers the fact they the people, the voters, are getting their pockets picked.

It's the same thing with a lot of the losers we elect for congress in this country. They get massive tax payer funded guaranteed pensions for life. And SPECIAL zero deductible health care for life (not Obama Care mind you....noooo that's only for the peasants). Yet they just bicker and bicker like complete losers they are and never get anything done. And many are in the pockets of corporate lobbyists (especially for the health care industry that robs Americans blind, etc...) What do they care about regular people who have to provide for their own health care and retirements? When they are taken care of to retire in the lap of luxury? They are laughing all the way to the bank.

Sad but true. It has been getting worse and worse over the years. Both parties push feel good things to get votes.

[Tulemutt]

Originally Posted by CaliRestoration

It especially won't be landing in California due to its taxation. Companies are relocating their HQs out of California if it's feasible for them.

Lmao. They “especially” won't land any of the places they don't land, Cali.

[CaliRestoration]

Originally Posted by Tulemutt

Lmao. They “especially” won't land any of the places they don't land, Cali.

It's called probability.

For instance, what's the probability you win the lotto tomorrow.

According to the recent jackpot odds, you would get struck by lightening 4 times over before you won the lotto.

Now what's the odds you win a local bingo jackpot? Probably 1 in 100.

California is the struck by lightening 4 times odds, Texas is playing the local bingo odds.