The Los Angeles Homeless Containment Thread (San Jose, San Francisco: fast track, studios, driveway)

[CaliRestoration]

Originally Posted by jm1982

OC should be studying what L.A does .. then do the exact opposite .

Don't worry, as we saw with the tent cities the OC managers were trying to put up, the population of OC fought back hard and got the County to scrap that idea quick.

[CALGUY]

Originally Posted by Matadora

Hi Bob,

What type of camps are you talking about? Who will pay for and maintain these camps until humans no longer exist since homelessness is going to be here as long as humans exist?

The state, federal, and local governments will pay to build thee camps.
They will have state, and local people to administer the programs within the camps.

Bob.

[2sleepy]

Originally Posted by Matadora

Hi Bob,

What type of camps are you talking about? Who will pay for and maintain these camps until humans no longer exist since homelessness is going to be here as long as humans exist?

Good point, particularly when you consider that in California it costs $75,560 a year to keep an inmate in a State Prison.

Since I don't think all these homeless people will voluntarily remain in these camps, making sure they don't walk away would require the same level of security as a prison.

[Matadora]

Originally Posted by 2sleepy

Good point, particularly when you consider that in California it costs $75,560 a year to keep an inmate in a State Prison.

What makes it so expensive to house a prisoner in CA?

Does it cost $75K per year to lock up an inmate in California?

The corrections department budget has gone up $1.2 billion since 2012 due to employee compensation and retirement costs, according to the Department of Finance. Of that increase, $436 million is directly tied to increased pension contributions by the state for prison employees.

The reason it costs so much is not due to the actual prisoner...it's due to how CA spends money to fund public employee pensions and retirement contributions.

Originally Posted by 2sleepy

Since I don't think all these homeless people will voluntarily remain in these camps, making sure they don't walk away would require the same level of security as a prison.

Or the security of a mental facility.

[2sleepy]

Originally Posted by Matadora

What makes it so expensive to house a prisoner?
Or the security of a mental facility.

If you are going to put all the homeless in a mental facility then you would need the court to adjudicate each one as being gravely disabled. That decision is reviewed periodically and the facility has to provide treatment, not just confinement.

"Civilly-committed patients are housed in local psychiatric hospitals, which can charge between $600 to $1,300 a day in Los Angeles County. Even when patients do get transferred to state facilities, counties still have to pay for their care. The state bills about $650 per patient, per day. "
https://www.scpr.org/news/2016/10/27...run-new-state/

$600 a day multiplied by 365 = $219,000 a year, so to put all of the 58,000 homeless in LA in inpatient mental hospitals it would cost $12,702,000,000 a year. Makes that 75k a year per inmate look like a bargain, huh?

[Matadora]

Originally Posted by 2sleepy

If you are going to put all the homeless in a mental facility...[snip]

Show me where I said that ALL homeless need to be put in a mental facility.

[2sleepy]

Originally Posted by Matadora

[/b]Show me where I said that ALL homeless need to be put in a mental facility.

Fair enough, but how many would you would put in mental facilities? If that were a feasible option it seems that you would need to lock up a significant number in order to make a dent in the homeless population, right?

[CaliRestoration]

Originally Posted by Matadora

What makes it so expensive to house a prisoner in CA?

Does it cost $75K per year to lock up an inmate in California?



The reason it costs so much is not due to the actual prisoner...it's due to how CA spends money to fund public employee pensions and retirement contributions.
Or the security of a mental facility.

That's a bingo.

[2sleepy]

Originally Posted by Matadora

The reason it costs so much is not due to the actual prisoner...it's due to how CA spends money to fund public employee pensions and retirement contributions.
Or the security of a mental facility.

Here's the breakdown on costs, you could get rid of every single guard and run the prisons with volunteers and it would still cost $38,793 (2016-2017 data)

Legislative Analyst's Office

[rodentraiser]

Originally Posted by SportyandMisty

I think you answered your own rhetorical question elsewhere in your post:

Welp, if that's the attitude you want to take about the homeless, carry on.

Originally Posted by LuvSouthOC

And of course, this is perfectly rationale because the homeless' problems are all due to the rent being too high

Originally Posted by jm1982

It’s those greedy landlords I tell you ! They are to blame for the homeless problem .

I guess they must of also got them hooked up drugs and booze too .

https://www.forbes.com/sites/zillow/.../#54f86066ba49

Study says rising rents tied to rising homeless population in Seattle | Q13 FOX News

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/ev...ess-2017-08-03

L.A.'s twin disasters

https://www.zillow.com/research/rent...ulation-16124/


You just keep ignoring the problem. Maybe if you get lucky and ignore it long enough, it will go away.