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Old 02-15-2018, 05:37 PM
 
Location: So Ca
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Originally Posted by majoun View Post
You were quoting from a post by "notmeofficer", who was a troll.
A cop who, from what I can see, is still posting here. Sorry you didn't happen to agree with him; he apparently knew the area fairly well.
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Old 02-15-2018, 05:52 PM
 
Location: Earth
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A cop who, from what I can see, is still posting here. Sorry you didn't happen to agree with him; he apparently knew the area fairly well.
He's a full fledged wacko who even admitted his knowledge of the area was dated as he has not set foot in Los Angeles in many, many years, at least 15 years.

Having grown up in the general vicinity and having lived much of my life near Venice - and some of it in Venice - I think I know more than that ****.

Anyways, the problems of Venice would improve greatly if we built the camps and interned the homeless in them. There would be very little crime in Venice if not for the homeless.
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Old 02-15-2018, 06:00 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles (Native)
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He's a full fledged wacko who even admitted his knowledge of the area was dated as he has not set foot in Los Angeles in many, many years, at least 15 years.

Having grown up in the general vicinity and having lived much of my life near Venice - and some of it in Venice - I think I know more than that ****.

Anyways, the problems of Venice would improve greatly if we built the camps and interned the homeless in them. There would be very little crime in Venice if not for the homeless.
True. People that have an education, career and a high enough income to afford to live in Venice usually aren't going to risk it to commit street crime .
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Old 02-15-2018, 06:11 PM
 
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Old 02-15-2018, 06:13 PM
 
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Yeah. That is EXACTLY what we need, less compassion for our fellow man.
I think that's why compassionate is in quotes. You gotta see the problem from both ends. And not setting with one side.

The wrong sides to be on are the ones that just call them criminals and the ones that just say "let them be" and only throw feel good policies at the problem. So it isn't compassionate but just putting a bandage and a kiss.

Compassionate folks need to see the problem for what it is and address it the right way without enabling the problem.

While people who are worried about the criminal problem need not put a whole blanket statement of "criminal" on the whole population.
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Old 02-15-2018, 06:20 PM
 
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There are a number of homeless people who have been taken in by compassionate friends, relatives, and without this compassion the number of homeless would be much higher. My Mexican roommate of 19 years never got back on his feet again after the Great Recession. Without me waving his rent, he'd be on the streets. Many people like that are unaccounted for.

On a national average it costs taxpayers roughly $42,500 a year to have one homeless person on our streets (hospitalizations, rehab, prescription drugs, emergency room visits accounts for a big share of it) and imprisonment costs taxpayers (adding in indirect costs) $40-50k a year.

Many of these homeless people are unaware they're eligible for Medicaid. I work in a LTC Rehab facility and we get homeless in for rehab occasionally, and once they leave, it's state/federal law, we can't release them until they've a roof over their head along with food stamps.

I attribute part of the blame for the homelessness in L.A. area to the anti-development, anti-density Nimby's and the antiquated zoning laws. 72% of L.A. county is still zoned for single family homes. And no mid-rises or high-rises allowed on California beach areas.
Maybe. Or maybe you're enabling him and if he was forced to take care of himself he would have found a job in the past 19 years

I attribute the LA homeless problem to a combination of mental illness and lazy, drug addict kids moving here from other parts of the country. I'd imagine most of the homeless population have no reason to even be in LA so the housing situation doesn't matter.
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Old 02-15-2018, 06:44 PM
 
Location: Born in L.A. - NYC is Second Home - Rustbelt is Home Base
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Yeah. That is EXACTLY what we need, less compassion for our fellow man.
I think in the future the trend will be to quietly let them die off. There will be a constant supply of new immigrants and the population will also keep growing. The idea will be that only the best will get the few remaining jobs that the robots don't take and let the useless / jobless rest just die off.

The millennials are known to be selfish and self-centered, so they will be very tough on the homeless. They just ignore them to die. I see it all the time in Manhattan. You ask some millennial a simple question like where is 'X' or 'Z'? They wont even stop to answer.

They will be in for a surprise when they end up on the street and they get some of their own medicine. As soon as they hit your 30's they are getting over the hill in this world. As rents skyrocket, jobs become more scarce and pop grows the homeless will continue to grow. It will be a millennial and Z Gen run world, I would not be surprised if someday they make it law that if you have no job you are rounded up to be killed.
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Old 02-15-2018, 07:30 PM
 
Location: So Ca
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People that have an education, career and a high enough income to afford to live in Venice usually aren't going to risk it to commit street crime .
Who says any of them live in the city in which they commit the crime?

And I still believe that most of the crimes committed in L.A. are due to drugs. Few chronically homeless would be able to carry out a planned attempt at burglary, probably due to physical, emotional and mental reasons.

Why Are More Addicts Turning To Crime To Fuel Drug Habits

What Makes Los Angeles Drug Abuse So Notorious?
https://transcendrecoverycommunity.c...es-drug-abuse/

Heroin use fuels surge of ER visits among California millennials:
https://www.dailynews.com/2017/02/04...a-millennials/
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Old 02-15-2018, 07:52 PM
 
Location: Earth
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Who says any of them live in the city in which they commit the crime?

And I still believe that most of the crimes committed in L.A. are due to drugs. Few chronically homeless would be able to carry out a planned attempt at burglary, probably due to physical, emotional and mental reasons.

Why Are More Addicts Turning To Crime To Fuel Drug Habits

What Makes Los Angeles Drug Abuse So Notorious?
https://transcendrecoverycommunity.c...es-drug-abuse/

Heroin use fuels surge of ER visits among California millennials:
https://www.dailynews.com/2017/02/04...a-millennials/
Because no chronically homeless in Los Angeles are addicts....

Where do you live? You seem to know nothing about the realities of the homeless in L.A. in 2018.
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Old 02-15-2018, 08:03 PM
 
Location: West Los Angeles and Rancho Palos Verdes
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We now have a homeless containment thread, as we do for earthquakes. Rather appropriate, I think, since the homeless do at least as much damage as any earthquake we've ever had.
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