The Los Angeles Homeless Containment Thread (Santa Monica: long-term, development, historic)

[jm1982]

Originally Posted by 2sleepy

Running out of new homeless scare stories jm?

No there are plenty. Just wanted to post one that might get a laugh... Versus the ones where the homeless are killing random innocent people.

[CaliRestoration]

Originally Posted by jm1982

No there are plenty. Just wanted to post one that might get a laugh... Versus the ones where the homeless are killing random innocent people.

Which is hitting about a 50/50 distribution these days.

[rodentraiser]

Originally Posted by CaliRestoration

So countries with socialized health care don't have Hep outbreaks?

Oh wait...
WHO/Europe | Hepatitis A outbreaks in European Region mostly affecting men who have sex with men
https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/new...ptoms-14002377

How about you change "countries" to "other cities in the US comparable in size to San Diego" and the answer would be "not really".

What I'm trying to point out is the hepatitis outbreak was out of control, which it might not have been had there been places where people could go to get it treated.

Originally Posted by SportyandMisty

We already have healthcare for everyone. If you want healthcare, you just buy it & pay for it -- just like if you want anything else, you buy it & pay for it.

I stand corrected. Instead, how about I say, "Maybe if we had affordable healthcare for everyone..."

I'll agree - the health care is there. As long as you have enough money to pay for it.

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I saw this article and I felt it addressed both the concerns from Matadora about homeless junkies and the homeless problems themselves.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/08/u...rtner=msft_msn

[CaliRestoration]

Originally Posted by rodentraiser

How about you change "countries" to "other cities in the US comparable in size to San Diego" and the answer would be "not really".

What I'm trying to point out is the hepatitis outbreak was out of control, which it might not have been had there been places where people could go to get it treated.

I agree, it's too bad Democrats in San Francisco and Los Angeles are spending way too much time researching and implementing heroin "shoot up sites" instead of setting up medical clinics where they can actually be treated.

[jm1982]

Originally Posted by CaliRestoration

I agree, it's too bad Democrats in San Francisco and Los Angeles are spending way too much time researching and implementing heroin "shoot up sites" instead of setting up medical clinics where they can actually be treated.

Yeah good point . Would these politicians want their kids going to a heroin shoot up site? Doubt it .

[2sleepy]

Originally Posted by CaliRestoration

I agree, it's too bad Democrats in San Francisco and Los Angeles are spending way too much time researching and implementing heroin "shoot up sites" instead of setting up medical clinics where they can actually be treated.

Why do you think there is a shortage of medical clinics and what kind of treatment do you think is available at "medical clinics" for heroin addicts?

[2sleepy]

Originally Posted by jm1982

Yeah good point . Would these politicians want their kids going to a heroin shoot up site? Doubt it .

Anyone who has a family member who is addicted to heroin would be very happy to learn that they were using the drugs at a safe injection site, it doesn't sure the addiction (does anything?) but it makes it far less likely that they will die of an overdose.

[expatCA]

Originally Posted by 2sleepy

Anyone who has a family member who is addicted to heroin would be very happy to learn that they were using the drugs at a safe injection site, it doesn't sure the addiction (does anything?) but it makes it far less likely that they will die of an overdose.

Nope, they will shoot up at both the site and any other place they can.

[2sleepy]

Originally Posted by expatCA

Nope, they will shoot up at both the site and any other place they can.

I'm not sure why you are so sure of that. But this is a fact, 40+ years of the war on drugs, over a trillion dollars spent on criminalizing drug use and marginalizing addicts and neither the supply or demand for drugs has decreased. Maybe it's time to try something else?

How Europe?s heroin capital solved its overdose crisis

https://www.vox.com/science-and-heal...pioid-epidemic

Injection Sites Provide Safe Spots to Shoot Up

[CaliforniaGal]

Originally Posted by 2sleepy

Anyone who has a family member who is addicted to heroin would be very happy to learn that they were using the drugs at a safe injection site, it doesn't sure the addiction (does anything?) but it makes it far less likely that they will die of an overdose.

Tell that to mothers who have lost children to Heroin over doses. My husband lost two brothers to Heroin overdoses. I never talk about it as it is my husband's family but it devastated my mother-in-law. My brother-in-law Roger was in his own home (family home) when his girlfriend gave him the fatal dose. My mother-in-law found him dead in his bedroom on the floor when she came back from playing Bingo. I will never forget her call to our home. Roger had been in rehab/recovery and was doing good. His old girlfriend came over and INJECTED him with the same dosage he was doing before going into rehab. It was too much and killed him.

My husband's other brother was a victim of a crime in Santa Monica, CA. He was found in a motel room back in the 70's.


Safe place - yea right. (shaking head) Sorry for the sarcasm but these sites are ridiculous. Might as well inject these people yourself (Politicians)