The Los Angeles Homeless Containment Thread (San Diego, Sacramento: things to do, travel, urban)

[2sleepy]

Originally Posted by LuvSouthOC

I am familiar with with his previous positions on LGBT issues and abortion, and I dislike those old positions tremendously. Those views seem to evolved anyway. Assuming arguendo they haven’t changed, when viewed in the totality, Cox’ positions would still be better OVERALL for California.

This will go over real well in California:

"Cox has stated that “I’d like to go to the Portugal system where they actually put people who use marijuana in hospitals and cure them of their substance abuse.”
http://www.emeraldreport.com/cannabi...ized-governor/

PS Portugal does not hospitalize marijuana users

[Finper]

They will never stop abortions or start praying in schools in Ca. Those are non issues. If Cox can help our homeless problem, and lower taxes or at least try. What's more important?? The debates will be very interesting... if Newsome shows up.

[jm1982]

Originally Posted by 2sleepy

This will go over real well in California:

"Cox has stated that “I’d like to go to the Portugal system where they actually put people who use marijuana in hospitals and cure them of their substance abuse.”
http://www.emeraldreport.com/cannabi...ized-governor/

PS Portugal does not hospitalize marijuana users

Isn’t this your position also ?
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I’m suggesting that people who are addicted to substances, substance abuse, should get treated, they should not be incarcerated,” he said Monday in an interview with editors and reporters at The San Diego Union-Tribune.

[jm1982]

Originally Posted by Finper

They will never stop abortions or start praying in schools in Ca. Those are non issues. If Cox can help our homeless problem, and lower taxes or at least try. What's more important?? The debates will be very interesting... if Newsome shows up.

True . The homeless issue is one of the top issues today in CA if not the top one .

The folks in charge have promised they’ll end homelessness and it’s only skyrocketed .

San Francisco and L.A have become worldwide embarrassments with reporters exposing the tent cities and drug addicts shooting up in public .
This is what the policy of “Tolerance” has created , cities with intolerable conditions .

[Tulemutt]

Originally Posted by jm1982

Isn’t this your position also ?
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I’m suggesting that people who are addicted to substances, substance abuse, should get treated, they should not be incarcerated,” he said Monday in an interview with editors and reporters at The San Diego Union-Tribune.

Of course anyone with any common sense understands that, even for the less than 9% of regular marijuana users for whom use of that recreational substance results in some degree of disorder in daily life, marijuana “addiction” is simply the least harmful of any addiction - other than possibly coffee. And to conflate it with alcoholism, hard-drug use, or even tobacco is ridiculously over the top, especially in a state that just legalized it. When such a position is broadcast by a politician also flouting the numerous other over the top extremism that Cox does ... it just adds to the eye-rolling his blather is going to trigger.

[2sleepy]

Originally Posted by jm1982

Isn’t this your position also ?
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I’m suggesting that people who are addicted to substances, substance abuse, should get treated, they should not be incarcerated,” he said Monday in an interview with editors and reporters at The San Diego Union-Tribune.

Marijuana is legal as a recreational drug in California and Cox wants to hospitalize users and treat them for a substance abuse disorder. I think Cox is as nutty as Jeff Sessions, that's my position

[Tulemutt]

Originally Posted by jm1982

True . The homeless issue is one of the top issues today in CA if not the top one .

The folks in charge have promised they’ll end homelessness and it’s only skyrocketed .

San Francisco and L.A have become worldwide embarrassments with reporters exposing the tent cities and drug addicts shooting up in public .
This is what the policy of “Tolerance” has created , cities with intolerable conditions .

The homeless issue is rightfully serious. Pretty sure, however aggravating and expensive and sad, it doesn’t top numerous others. Housing availabilities and costs in urban centers ring a bell? How about crumbling infrasructure? Even the bullet train? Water?

That said, saying that ½ of 1% of LA County’s population (58,000 out of 10,000,000) create “intolerable conditions” for 10,000,000 is what’s known as hyperbole. It’s sadly deplorable in various pockets ... and by its nature of social failing demands resolution. Sure. But “number one issue”, “intolerable conditions” is very much an overstatement.

[Tulemutt]

Originally Posted by 2sleepy

Marijuana is legal as a recreational drug in California and Cox wants to hospitalize users and treat them for a substance abuse disorder. I think Cox is as nutty as Jeff Sessions, that's my position

I think people such as Sessions and Cox should be committed for treatment ...

[2sleepy]

Originally Posted by jm1982

I’m suggesting that people who are addicted to substances, substance abuse, should get treated, they should not be incarcerated,” he said Monday in an interview with editors and reporters at The San Diego Union-Tribune.

Regarding that ^ What treatment do you suggest? Please share your thoughts with us and provide data for the long term recovery rate for your preferred treatment modality.

My thoughts are that people who are addicted to drugs or alcohol should be left alone unless use results in criminal behavior at which point you deal with the behavior not the addiction.

[2sleepy]

Originally Posted by Tulemutt

I think people such as Sessions and Cox should be committed for treatment ...

or better yet, a lobotomy. They might be less dangerous after that