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Old 11-01-2018, 04:26 PM
 
Location: On the water.
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Tule:

What do you guess might be my objection(s) to a right to housing?
I asked because I truly want your explanation.

I could guess you simply don’t want anyone to get something for nothing.

I could guess you fear that housing would cost taxpayers (you specifically) a budget-breaking amount of money.

I could guess you fear the provided housing would impose loss of value on your property because you fear there would be no limitations on where housing would be forced.

I could guess you just simply don’t want people you consider dirty to have anything decent.

I could guess more. I might be right on some or all. Or you could tell me different.

My position in asking isn’t to call you out for any of those possibilities. My position is to ask: if you want the homeless off the streets, how would you get it done without crossing some of those fear lines without ‘rights’ to housing. ... and thus point out that: if you don’t want ‘rights’ to housing granted, you still have to house the homeless - OR - they stay on the streets.

Personally, I don’t care if they are granted ‘rights’ to housing. ... As long as they are removed from the streets.
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Old 11-01-2018, 04:51 PM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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I am all for sticking to the constitution...that's that document that has no right to housing.
Right to housing is written into the New York state constitution, that is where one would expect to find something like that, dontcha think?
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Old 11-01-2018, 05:57 PM
 
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You are totally onto something ! A CARAVAN TO NEW YORK !! Great idea!! Oh , it'll be difficult and expensive (wink, wink) but think of all the money New York "public servants" , advocates, and vendors will make... HUGE savings for CA.. (heck, let's include the whole west coast of the US) ....and virtually irreconcilable human misery... like almost immediately... give em all MAGA hats and sweat shirts and get em going, one step at a time.. .. ... headed to utopia..

Last edited by TCROX; 11-01-2018 at 06:15 PM.. Reason: Forgot to capitalize MAGA !!!
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Old 11-01-2018, 05:59 PM
 
Location: So Ca
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My position is to ask: if you want the homeless off the streets, how would you get it done without crossing some of those fear lines without ‘rights’ to housing. ... and thus point out that: if you don’t want ‘rights’ to housing granted, you still have to house the homeless - OR - they stay on the streets.

Personally, I don’t care if they are granted ‘rights’ to housing. ... As long as they are removed from the streets.
Exactly.
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Old 11-01-2018, 09:56 PM
 
Location: West Los Angeles
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Get this . Garcetti thinks 50,000 homeowners in L.A are going to build ADUs in their backyards to house the homeless . I’m sure he’s leading by example and has his setup ready to House a justice affected mentally ill homeless person .

This guy is so out of touch with reality .
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"People come up all the time and say, 'What can I do personally?'" L.A. Mayor Eric Garcetti told KPCC's Take Two in an interview this week. "There's 500,000 single-family homes. We're hoping ten percent will build these. It will be 50,000 new units of housing."

Mayor Garcetti Is Hoping This Program Will Create 50K Homeless Housing Units In Angelenos' Backyards: LAist
LOL!

Pro-Tip: Anytime somebody predicates something by stating, "People come up all the time and say [...]", they're lying their ass off!

Sheesh, does this guy think we're all that freakin' gullible?
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Old 11-01-2018, 09:59 PM
 
Location: West Los Angeles
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Hollywood boulevard/Gower today

Is this homeless man wearing a day without an immigrant shirt ?

Quite the setup ..

#ONLYINLA

https://ibb.co/mMRroL
Looks just like any number of places on the Westside. And what a nice little collection of comfy chairs he has to sit and drink his booze when he's taking a break from panhandling.
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Old 11-02-2018, 01:21 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles (Native)
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Looks just like any number of places on the Westside. And what a nice little collection of comfy chairs he has to sit and drink his booze when he's taking a break from panhandling.
Yeah it’s a shame . Westside wasn’t like that when I lived there . I mean there weren’t the tents like you see now . There would be some lone homeless that pretty much kept to themselves and were in the area for years but now you see these tents and homeless congregating together which isn’t good .
I was thinking that about the chairs , they got a nice little setup kind of like an outdoor mobile office ..... He had a buddy there too ( not seen in the pic )
Would this be considered “coworking space “ ?

I feel bad for these business owners that run businesses in these strip malls , I imagine they lose a lot of business due to the homeless .

Right near this tent encampment several brand new luxury buildings have sprung up .

It’s such a strange reality we have in this city .

1 bedrooms like $3500-4000 month ..
2 bedrooms 4-5k month .. for Hollywood Blvd . Nuts .

https://www.apartments.com/el-centro...es-ca/m5m52rl/
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Old 11-02-2018, 02:47 AM
 
Location: West Los Angeles
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Yeah it’s a shame . Westside wasn’t like that when I lived there . I mean there weren’t the tents like you see now . There would be some lone homeless that pretty much kept to themselves and were in the area for years but now you see these tents and homeless congregating together which isn’t good .
I was thinking that about the chairs , they got a nice little setup kind of like an outdoor mobile office ..... He had a buddy there too ( not seen in the pic )
Would this be considered “coworking space “ ?

I feel bad for these business owners that run businesses in these strip malls , I imagine they lose a lot of business due to the homeless .

Right near this tent encampment several brand new luxury buildings have sprung up .

It’s such a strange reality we have in this city .

1 bedrooms like $3500-4000 month ..
2 bedrooms 4-5k month .. for Hollywood Blvd . Nuts .

https://www.apartments.com/el-centro...es-ca/m5m52rl/

Yeah, it was EXACTLY as you described. You'd see one homeless person every six city blocks. Now, in some places, you'll see six or more homeless people in one block. And those little enclaves with tents, chairs, couches, etc. are a new thing within the past few years. What's next...bath tubs and jacuzzis set up on the sidewalks as well? Or perhaps big screen televisions with surround sound set up on the sidewalk so they can do full-on bum parties for watching sports games and stuff?

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Old 11-02-2018, 07:41 AM
 
Location: So Ca
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Yeah it’s a shame . Westside wasn’t like that when I lived there . I mean there weren’t the tents like you see now . There would be some lone homeless that pretty much kept to themselves and were in the area for years but now you see these tents and homeless congregating together which isn’t good .
Yes, back when a cup of coffee cost 25 cents, a gallon of gasoline was under $1.50, and you could buy a starter house for under $75,000. (We owned a very small one in Venice; it shocks me to think of how much more affordable housing was back then.) Life was just not as expensive as it has been in the past few years, especially since the 2008 economic downturn, from which some people have never recovered.

Dr. Drew interviewing the homeless in Skid Row. This woman was in the mortgage lending industry when she lost her job, and stated that was the only field that she knew. She said that she didn't have issues with mental health, but "this place will give you mental health problems."

I don't know if Pinsky is playing dumb here, but he doesn't appear to realize that some people don't have family members to help them out when they suddenly fall on hard times. And this woman does....but she's too embarrassed to contact her out of state son.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_bUooR61yQ
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Old 11-02-2018, 08:45 AM
 
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Coming to LA today? couldn't still be in jail could he?? Public transportation gives 'em all a fresh start in a new area...
https://www.ocregister.com/2018/11/0...e-while-naked/
Free unsecured, unsupervised housing is an awful, awful idea... outside, wandering around, doing whatever...
Thanks gavin and jerry
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