The Los Angeles Homeless Containment Thread (Riverside, Oceanside: 2014, apartment, crime)

[LuvSouthOC]

Originally Posted by jm1982

Classic post!

Yeah it was classic. More than that: it can also serve as a reminder that the people who advocate most strenuously for housing for the homeless are in housing tracts far from the bums or exurban areas in metro Los Angeles where there are not many homeless people and no shelters will be built, or in the case of others, living on a military-owned and operated marina (where the homeless could never get in or ever have a shelter built). Advocates tend to be retired too, thus not risking having to pay more in taxes on a reduced income.

In all cases, no skin in the game.


Also tired of reading about this regressive created “Qanon” that supposedly is the news source for the all libertarians and conservatives. It’s new and seems regressive created like some sort of a straw man they created to knock down.

[TCROX]

Originally Posted by Goinback2011

Are the local and state politicians getting suitcases full of cash from the drug cartels like their Mexican counterparts?

Maybe a rhetorical question... Something is going on for sure- public safety and quality of life are being utterly destroyed over tax money so I guess drug money would not be a far reach for those administering this misery - they clearly have no morals or ethics. the use of devastating drugs like meth and heroin are sure a big part of vagrant management. There seems to be zero effort to stop the drug flow and zero consequences for anyone doing the drugs...soooo

[CA4Now]

L.A. settles pivotal homeless rights case, likely limiting the city's ability to clear streets of camps:
https://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/...306-story.html

[Goinback2011]

Originally Posted by TCROX

Maybe a rhetorical question... Something is going on for sure- public safety and quality of life are being utter destroyed over tax money so I guess drug money would not be a far reach for those administering this misery - they clearly have no morals or ethics. the use of devastating drugs like meth and heroin are sure a big part of vagrant management. There seems to be zero effort to stop the drug flow and zero consequences for anyone doing the drugs...soooo

It is, I believe, the key to understanding the otherwise insane homeless policies and changes to the criminal code that have been enacted. The cartels have more money than any California industry.

[LuvSouthOC]

Originally Posted by CA4Now

L.A. settles pivotal homeless rights case, likely limiting the city's ability to clear streets of camps:
https://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/...306-story.html

Regressives keep fighting and winning, mostly because they are unopposed, always pushing us closer to becoming like Calcutta.

Good luck ever seeing DTLA get more gentrified. Bums can claim property rights over personal affects that they are leaving on public or private property!

[TCROX]

Originally Posted by Goinback2011

It is, I believe, the key to understanding the otherwise insane homeless policies and changes to the criminal code that have been enacted. The cartels have more money than any California industry.

That's the main motivator here- fear of lead poisoning (cartel style) could be a close second..

[TCROX]

Originally Posted by LuvSouthOC

Good luck ever seeing DTLA get more gentrified. Bums can claim property rights over personal affects that they are leaving on public or private property!

Don't you think at some point a dollar figure and cost benefit analysis has been assigned to each vagrant they let out ? The vagrant wranglers MUST know how much tax money each vagrant is bring in! There must be a huge profit margin based on the monetary value of each vagrant -
---public policy and welfare are now being dictated based on this one settlement- for how much again? No pro-law and order lawsuit(s) over this???

Where is the tax money going and WHO is getting it??? The monetary value per vagrant needs to be disclosed NOW!
This is now headed towards street criminals in general being a protected class...

[Exitus Acta Probat]

Originally Posted by LuvSouthOC

Yeah it was classic. More than that: it can also serve as a reminder that the people who advocate most strenuously for housing for the homeless are in housing tracts far from the bums or exurban areas in metro Los Angeles where there are not many homeless people and no shelters will be built, or in the case of others, living on a military-owned and operated marina (where the homeless could never get in or ever have a shelter built). Advocates tend to be retired too, thus not risking having to pay more in taxes on a reduced income.

In all cases, no skin in the game.


Also tired of reading about this regressive created “Qanon” that supposedly is the news source for the all libertarians and conservatives. It’s new and seems regressive created like some sort of a straw man they created to knock down.

Great points.


Another thing is that retired people have all the time they need to go shopping in the daytime and rarely have instances of, "Oh no, I need this item right now so I need to walk to the store after dark.", and face homeless people and their creepy behavior, including but not limited to, verbal harassment, indecent exposure, threats of violence, actual violence, etc.

[jm1982]

Originally Posted by LuvSouthOC

Regressives keep fighting and winning, mostly because they are unopposed, always pushing us closer to becoming like Calcutta.

Good luck ever seeing DTLA get more gentrified. Bums can claim property rights over personal affects that they are leaving on public or private property!

Nice... so they sided and listened to advocates that probably don’t even live in the area or around the homeless versus the business people investing billions in downtown , creating jobs etc .

“The 10-2 vote to authorize the city attorney to cut a deal came at the behest of anti-poverty advocates and over opposition from downtown business groups, which had argued that settling would leave skid row and the people who live on its sidewalks mired in squalor, and deter downtown redevelopment.”

[jm1982]

From Venice 311 on twitter

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Well Los Angeles - your City Council was just bought off and settled the Mitchell vs. LA with a 10-2 vote meaning the homeless can basically do whatever the F they want because your elected leaders don’t care enough about YOU to implement reasonable rules. Enjoy your hep-c.