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Old 11-18-2019, 11:15 AM
 
Location: On the water.
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the libs and dems are already coming out fighting it. Oh so predictable..... only took about a hour too. And P Trump hasn't even said what he plans to do yet.
Don’t know about the “Libs and dems” ... but independent, intellectually aware people stand ready to ensure that problems in this great nation and state are evaluated and attacked through constitutionally sound principles and venues that serve the interests of freedom of ALL citizens equally, thereby ensuring a healthy society.

If you think that throwing out the foundations this nation was built on is a good idea, you are free to pursue your ideal visions. Go for it.
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Old 11-18-2019, 11:26 AM
 
Location: Ca expat loving Idaho
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It would look silly because California doesn't need "saving"

Ca is falling....

https://www.facebook.com/craigneil/v...4966635135435/
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Old 11-18-2019, 11:35 AM
 
Location: Ca expat loving Idaho
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Don’t know about the “Libs and dems” ... but independent, intellectually aware people stand ready to ensure that problems in this great nation and state are evaluated and attacked through constitutionally sound principles and venues that serve the interests of freedom of ALL citizens equally, thereby ensuring a healthy society.

If you think that throwing out the foundations this nation was built on is a good idea, you are free to pursue your ideal visions. Go for it.
How is Trump turning his attention to CA throwing out the foundation of a nation? This post makes no sense... you must be really freaking out at the thought of Trump really helping CA.
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Old 11-18-2019, 11:38 AM
 
Location: Ca expat loving Idaho
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Move to a different place to be homeless? Wonderful idea, just hop on a bus and try your luck in North Dakota! Of course they probably still can't afford housing and even if they could who would rent to someone who smells bad and has no rental history? Plus they have no knowledge of the area, they don't know the safe places to sleep, they won't have any friends and they will likely freeze to death but hey, it's a cheaper place, and that's the goal, right?
so they will all end up in N Dakota?? hyperbole much???
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Old 11-18-2019, 11:40 AM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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Falling huh? Hot Dam well you better hurry up and catch it
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Old 11-18-2019, 11:41 AM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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so they will all end up in N Dakota?? hyperbole much???
You tell me where they will go then, I defer to your expertise on the matter
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Old 11-18-2019, 11:42 AM
 
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uh uh...you can't do that. You can't arrest people for addiction or mental illness, last time I checked we still had a constitution.
??? Really you can’t arrest people for drug possession, public nuisance, pissing in the street, etc?
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Old 11-18-2019, 11:49 AM
 
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Utter bulltweet.
No more so than yours boss. Relying on biased unnamed studies doesn’t override observed evidence, esp when the problems in the tens of thousands, not in the millions where things may not be readily observable.

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If your overly simplistic, reductionist “plan” was the “way out” of the homeless crisis ... we wouldn’t have any homeless crisis ... it would have ended long ago ... long before it became a stain on every politician’s record.

Every one of your posts scream deep ignorance of the complexities of the situation..
Yes it is complex. So you do the quickest cheapest fix immediately to alleviate part of the problem. Then you clean up the streets which is what benefits society the most. Just because it’s a complex problem doesn’t mean it requires complex solutions.

And we have evidence in how cleaned up skid row was prior to 2012.

I notice you never refer to that, where between 1990 and 2010 the entire nature of downtown changed, primarily due to law enforcement as well as business friendlier process.

I can only surmise you weren’t actually here to witness the change and what initiated the change. And that’s too bad. All the studies in the world can’t change what actually happened and how the most dangerous downtown in America was changed.
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Old 11-18-2019, 11:52 AM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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??? Really you can’t arrest people for drug possession, public nuisance, pissing in the street, etc?
That is NOT what you said. I can only respond to your post, not what you think that maybe you meant to say or decided to say after I responded to your initial post.
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Old 11-18-2019, 11:53 AM
 
Location: On the water.
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How is Trump turning his attention to CA throwing out the foundation of a nation? This post makes no sense... you must be really freaking out at the thought of Trump really helping CA.
I don’t “freak out” about anything ...

That clarified, I wasn’t referring to Trump throwing out the foundations of the nation - although he’s already been trying to do as much of that as he can get away with. I was referring to your enthusiasm for his unconstitutional proposals. You like his approach? Get involved in the politics to overturn the constitution. He’ll be forever in your debt. You know how loyal he is! You might even end up in his cabinet! Lots of security there, Finper
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