L.A. mayor flips on housing bill, says dense housing “doesn’t look right”

[FirebirdCamaro1220]

Originally Posted by expatCA

For those that want to stay or move to LA, they better have money. They can't build fast enough to bring prices down and if they built a LOT of houses material prices would go up due to shortages. To build up they have to buy existing homes and that costs a lot and then tare it down and build higher costs a lot and ... the problem remains the same. Prices will go up. Have money or a room mate.

A good example was a housing project in SD County in the late 70's. Homes were going up every 3 months by $5000.00 due to the number of people moving in. By the end of the eyar the prices were $20,000.00 higher and a new development started right next to it.They had waiting lists on each new section before they could build them. This was in Escondido so not close to to San Diego at all. Denser housing does not resolve the problem at all. For once the mayor got something right.

I hear about doing this all the time. OK where has it brought prices down?

It has worked here in Phoenix. We had a luxury apartment complex right in midtown open back in 2013 with no competition for at least a half mile in any direction, and starting rent for a one bedroom was $1,400/month. 3 years later, 3 competing luxury complexes opened right next door, and that same $1,400/month one bedroom is now $1,200/month. Building more does work. And keep in mind, this was in the central city, not greenfield exurban development either

[FirebirdCamaro1220]

Originally Posted by expatCA

The ares closer to jobs are built out. That is part of how suburbs developed.

You've never heard of brownfield development?

[JustPassinThru]

Originally Posted by Chicano3000X

..We need to give people options. And it's a win win for both car and transit rider. Because it will get some of us liberated from the freeways, thus allowing more breathing room for the people who love their cars. Build more density to fullfill supply and demand and allowing people to live closer their jobs therefor keeping THEM off the freeways...

I don't know if anyone remembers - or even heard of - Adriana Gianturco, but she was the DOT director in 1976, when the diamond lane system was implemented. I, along with thousands of other LA drivers, cursed this woman for making our commute even more miserable than before.

It wasn't even her fault. The project was designed in a previous administration, but she took the heat. After much public outrage - and a lawsuit - the diamond lane program was ended.

I remember one discussion in particular, when Adriana stated that, if she kept adding more lanes and building more freeways, we (the public) would immediately fill them up, so better solutions were needed. Yes, this lady was waaaay ahead of her time then.

Her operatic name was transposed to epithet: Giant Turkey, the Madwoman of Caltrans, Our Lady of the Diamond Lane. "The insults didn't stop," she recalls.

Neither did the hate mail, obscene phone calls or death threats. "We had to check all packages for bombs," she remembers, "because the insanity got so out of hand." And for good reason, many citizens believed.

A Driven Woman : Adriana Gianturco fought a lonely battle for car-pool lanes in 1976. Now, they're a part of the L.A. map. - latimes

[Csonka]

Originally Posted by Chicano3000X

Overbuild? We're underbuilt..

Just because we got full on suburban housing doesn't mean we are over built.

The reason we have so much traffic is because we've relied too much on single family homes. And since it's mostly one or two stories, everything is spread out.

So commutes get longer. L.A. gets more appealing.

Ironically, the same aspect that got people comming is the same aspect that defeated itself.

Now we're bracing for a population we didn't prepare for. We built it, they came. Things got more expensive because there was more people than there was room for. No we cannot turn people away. But we are so confident in our way of life as if everyone can live in the same space like some quantum based society that we were blind to what the city really needed.

The thing is, by nature, cities grow, cities need to adapt. Traffic will always grow, but if we put off rail and density,then the same traffic we are crying about is only gonna get worse.

We need to give people options. And it's a win win for both car and transit rider. Because it will get some of us liberated from the freeways, thus allowing more breathing room for the people who love their cars. Build more density to fullfill supply and demand and allowing people to live closer their jobs therefor keeping THEM off the freeways. Again leaving room for you to drive.

The point is. No traffic will NEVER be perfect again. But if we don't address it now, then if you think it's bad today. You don't know what's in store..

Been reading that Uber and everyone ordering things online is also adding to traffic in a big way

[JustMike77]

Originally Posted by jm1982

Santa Clarita has the right idea huh .

Looks like they might destroy the idea of needing a car in the suburbs .

https://www.bisnow.com/los-angeles/n...rita-84646#ath

They are doing something similar in Warner Center in Woodland Hills. The Warner Center 2035 Plan will add hundreds of residential units and a ton of commercial space so people can work and live in the same neighborhood.

L.A. revives a denser vision for Woodland Hills' Warner Center

[jm1982]

Originally Posted by JustMike77

They are doing something similar in Warner Center in Woodland Hills. The Warner Center 2035 Plan will add hundreds of residential units and a ton of commercial space so people can work and live in the same neighborhood.

L.A. revives a denser vision for Woodland Hills' Warner Center

Yeah it’ll be interesting to see what happens . I saw that the owners of Mall of America might
Buy the old Rocketdyne site .

Woodland Hills and surrounding area isn’t cheap now but the homes seem to be a decent value for the L.A area at least .

I can see it becoming more desirable .


https://therealdeal.com/la/2018/04/1...in-the-valley/